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Post by kydave on Aug 8, 2014 8:21:20 GMT -5
Hey Beale' Sorry to hear about your loss. I figured you have been busy or found a treasure, hope you do someday. I know the thrill would be worth more than the money "priceless"! Would be for me anyway! Haven't been out much lately, went to "Treasure Fest" only one day back in June got a messed up shoulder and haven't been swinging the detector much lately. Anyway glad your doing ok and still on the Forum later!
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Post by beale on Aug 9, 2014 16:35:26 GMT -5
Thanks, Kydave. My brother will be missed. I loved him so.
Treasure hunting I can take it or leave it. Treasures for me are easily found but I can never get permission from any landowners. I have made a point many times---------Treasure can be found without a metal detector. All you have to do is go to any treasures suspected location find the meanest landowner around and the treasure is on his property. If someone lets you in on their property ----- forget it if the treasure was there someone would have already found it. Try treasure hunting this way---------you will be successful finding the treasures but the recovery will take you a life time. Sorry to hear about your shoulder Kydave-----myself I always have trouble out of my knees or my back. Good luck to you and all posters out there.
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Post by beale on Aug 11, 2014 18:38:29 GMT -5
Kydave, I went Beale Treasure hunting one day about eight or ten years ago. I stopped at a gas station in Montvale. I went in got a cake and diet pepsi. After coming back out I decided to do some dowsing for the Beale Treasure. I went off to the east side of the gas station so as not to draw any attention. After coming back around to the front to put up my dowsing tool, five men were standing there talking. I sort of got into the conversation when they asked me what I was doing. I told them I was searching for the Beale Treasure. They laughed as they continued their conversation. I listened for about ten minutes as they were discussing about buying a small farm. One of the men said he could have gotten the farm for "three" another said no I believe it would have taken at least "five." I asked another fellow standing there if they were talking about buying a farm for three or five thousand and he replied no they are talking about millions. He told me those five men are all multi-millionaires. I told him they sure did not look it in their dirty boots and farming bib-overalls. Finally I got back into their conversation and asked the five men if they had heard or knew anything about the Beale Treasure. They said sure and one asked the other you remember the story about the treasure and the other replied sure but the treasure was buried right after Cornwallis surrendered at Yorktown in 1780 or 1781. Two Duolley brothers stole a trunk of gold from General Cornwallis-----they brought the gold back to Bedford County and buried the gold. One of the Dullley brothers went back and dug the money up and buried it somewhere else. The other brother thinking his brother had stolen the gold, killed him before asking where he had buried the gold------and that my friend is where the story of the Beale Treasure came from and that is the Duolley Brother's gold stolen from General Cornwallis at the Battle of Yorktown. This story may be true. It was told by five men that had nothing to gain from such a tale and they should be in the know by living the area. But who really knows the hunt for the Beale Treasure continues. Albert
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Post by kydave on Aug 12, 2014 11:10:33 GMT -5
I would say most any kind of story might be connected to the Beale treasure who knows for sure? Talking about Dowsing, I was going deer hunting one year and decided to draw a rough sketch of the farm i was to hunt on and put an X at every spot i thought i might see a deer. Then i proceeded to eliminate all the X's but one and hunt there. The next morning i walked directly to that spot and as soo as i got there i saw a 10 point buck about 75 yards away on the edge of the woods. I was in a picked corn field with no cover or hiding place so i quickly layed down. That deer walked directly towards me and i let him get within 20 yards or so before i fired and killed him. That all happened within 10 minutes, shortest hunt i ever went on! Too bad this method doesn't happen more treasure hunting! But an old timer told me once Dowsing usually just works out of "need" and hardly ever works out of "greed", i guess when your looking for riches that comes under "greed"
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Post by kydave on Aug 28, 2014 19:14:05 GMT -5
I have found at least 30 or 40 locations of gold being discovered in Va. during this time period. Don't really see any reason to go out west? But supposedly it was only by accident?
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Post by Lee aka "cat" aka Rebel-KGC on Sept 1, 2014 15:28:50 GMT -5
Well, the Dooley Bros had a helicopter for tours of Bedford County, Va. & one of 'em died RECENTLY (Kenneth, I think). Had a back-hoe or two; focused MAINLY in the Walnut Grove Church "area".
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Post by beale on Sept 2, 2014 18:15:18 GMT -5
I have found at least 30 or 40 locations of gold being discovered in Va. during this time period. Don't really see any reason to go out west? But supposedly it was only by accident? You are so right Kydave, there are several rich placer gold and gold mines in Virginia and North Carolina. These mines were never worked to the potential. The White Hall mine near Charlottesville, Virginia while about 60 feet down a one yard of stone was removed and over $250,000 in gold was found in that one cubic yard. There has got to be plenty more. I have the locations of all gold mines in Virginia and I plotted them on a topo-map this gave me a view of where the gold deposits ran and where the copper and iron ore began.
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Post by beale on Sept 2, 2014 19:36:50 GMT -5
I have found at least 30 or 40 locations of gold being discovered in Va. during this time period. Don't really see any reason to go out west? But supposedly it was only by accident? You are so right Kydave, there are several rich placer gold and gold mines in Virginia and North Carolina. These mines were never worked to the potential. The White Hall mine near Charlottesville, Virginia while about 60 feet down a one yard of stone was removed and over $250,000 in gold was found in that one cubic yard. There has got to be plenty more. I have the locations of all gold mines in Virginia and I plotted them on a topo-map this gave me a view of where the gold deposits ran and where the copper and iron ore began. I thought the Overstreets were the family that did the helicopter tours of Montvale?
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Post by kydave on Sept 3, 2014 15:51:15 GMT -5
What if you had a lock and a key which one would you send first to morriss? You know the lock could be picked or broken right? So send the key! Which might be a list of words from the DOI! So i think this is what Beale did. Some of the best minds in the world have tried to crack these codes with no results. So after 40 years i believe this is what Beale did. Benjamin Tallmadge had a dictionary code like this in the same time period. 763 words excattly the same as paper number 2 in. Beale was to send the "real" code numbers to use with the DOI key in 1832 what happened who knows? But i would bet this code could have been cracked if itsn;t for that! I have picked this thing completely apart over the years and that is my assumption! Thinking out of the box! Someone else might find a key but i don't think morriss ever got it!
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Post by kydave on Sept 3, 2014 15:56:43 GMT -5
Gimmee some feed back Beale i know you more about it than anybody else!
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Post by kydave on Sept 5, 2014 15:30:03 GMT -5
Well i guess i should have kept this info to myself instead of handing it out to the "Forum Sponges"! Not going to tell you guys the rest!
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Post by beale on Sept 5, 2014 19:38:49 GMT -5
Kydave, I don't post as often as I should. I am in the process of moving-------so I may not be on here for months. As far as the "KEY" it was left in St. Louis, MO at the Planter's Hotel. The manager George Radar Brugh was to deliver the letter to Robert Morris in 1832. He was murdered in Roanoke, Va at the Blackhorse Tavern by the owner and proprietor Ebenezer Nelms. The letter was later found in 1932 and a copy was made. A map was left by TJB telling where the depositories were located. The original and the copy ended up in the hands of someone in Washington, D.C. I have a copy of the map.
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Post by kydave on Sept 5, 2014 21:18:12 GMT -5
Thats great info Beale, like i said i knew you knew more than anybody else on the subject. Very strange about me posting about Tallmadge what 2 days ago? Well tonight he is discussed on the Travel Channel!!! I had never heard of the guy until recently! Spooky! I think they are still watching us! ha! Come back when you can Beale always good to hear from you!
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Post by Lee aka "cat" aka Rebel-KGC on Sept 6, 2014 19:07:40 GMT -5
May well be Overstreet, who had the "Helio"... BUT! The DOOLEY family had $$$$$$$$$$$ for a "Helio", back-hoe digger(s), bull-dozers; it COULD have come from WHATEVER "jobs", they had... I reckon.
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Post by Lee aka "cat" aka Rebel-KGC on Sept 7, 2014 7:22:28 GMT -5
NOW! Ran into some info that links the MHC (Montvale Heliocopter Charter & the OP, in which Ken alluded to "MARSH" areas of Bedford County, Va.; HA! ONLY on THIS web-site... to generate MORE "traffic". "BT" rumored to be buried "under the LION'S HEAD"... PEAKS OF OTTER! MOUNTAIN "SWAMPS" on BOTH sides of the Blue Ridge Parkway (ALL FED-land)... AND! The Mons area had the GREAT MARSH; now drained & Abbot Lake was "built" by the CCC in the 1930's. Did the Feds find something in the GREAT MARSH...? Covering it up by draining it, and building Abbot Lake...? Lion's Head above Johnson FARM, very close to the GREAT MARSH/Abbot Lake...? NO "Helio" tours over FED-land, to see the Marsh/Mountain Swamps "area"... HA!
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