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Post by TOMm on Mar 4, 2008 22:00:12 GMT -5
Mr. gldslngr
DEAR SIR
Have you an email address that is not your main email if not maybe you can get one at hot mail or some other free email ?
i think i may have something for you to look at from your works.
THANK YOU
TOMm
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Post by gldslngr on Mar 4, 2008 22:56:39 GMT -5
TOMm, you could send me your eMail address by the forum message system and I'll give you one. Don't like to post any of my eMails addresses because of the spam problems. I would like to see/read of your observations. Could they just be laid out here on the forum?
Also I tried your code projection idea a few different ways. Afraid though that my eyes are to bad to see what you are referring to.
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Post by TOMm on Mar 5, 2008 0:30:27 GMT -5
Dar Sir
because of the spam thing ill try in a manner that will be suttle sometimes
First of all you need a list of all the nouns i the letters /morris page
Then ignor at this time the bright spots
darken room very dark
if using opaque take it out of focus untill the dark lines can be seen
if using comp. then darken monitor till only black shapes are seen
depending on what document your using you will see the nouns
as such are abstracted or joined together
faces usualy have a 45 degree at chin candle ha 180 bear has sine candle is on right side, heart ,heart is also head of bear
mountains are pointed tops sometimes . the north star is by its self, orion is the pattern i spoke of early on. the bottom is virginia at that time . there is more than one heart there are the ladies the pleadies .
use olny th blak for now pay atention to the 180 horiz,also
there is one huge face its from right to left in the black lines .
i think it needs to be raised or it needs a slide to hide .
Thanks
TOMm
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Post by TOMm on Mar 5, 2008 14:28:01 GMT -5
hello gents
in us ing the constitution in 3D Starting at the far right tp corner
working toward the center at about 45 degress now look only at th dark places for now..... top right corner has as small face of a man and then another then another then another each one a bit larger then the one from the last one then there will be a wide dark breaking area to start a new figure at larger face
the base figure in this looks like a peacock or turkey with designs in it feathers
i have seen others simular 3D but its design was a rattle snake
Its a if a picture is orth a 1000 words , there are also numbers using narrow and wide together for instance albert gallatin
is not spelled out but it is a very thin A laying against thick G
THE MEN WITH ROUNDER HEADS OR FACES ARE MORE EASIR TO FIND BeCAUSE OF MORE THICK OPEN DARK AREAS (CAPS ON)
a river will bemore open then a mountaian
but knowing what area is also important
i see three different areas 4 IF you count the sky area .
you will see an INDIAN CHIEF and a sheep a bear a deer alion
2 hearts and carachters cartoon style of the signers a candle a cave 2 caves some things to fill in spaces you will see *mrs morris.s smililing face*( IN PAMPHLET) YOU WILL SEE MEGS WITH OUT AN *a* GAME NOW WHO WAS megs?? not all of this is in the constitution but in the letters and DOI AS WELL.
WITH DARKEN SCREEN IN DARKENED IN ROOM
TOMm
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Post by TOMm on Mar 6, 2008 16:57:08 GMT -5
Good Day History Type Gents
Just A note
MEGS or MEIGS was BEALE or BEAL
He was Lafitte's cabin boy who was involved in smuggling Napoleon off that Island Now Lets see Ive either got a great imagination or or Ive got some information not shared at this time.
and i do believe the 5 gentlemen were either involved with treasure or owned a treasure as well as Albert Gallatin Plus another person in charge of a treasure was ROBERT MORRIS who claimed to lose a whole wagon train of sliver and plate (referenced in Signers of the Declaration of Independence) the reason for me saying this at this time is because Napoleons sillioute is in one of the above documents and it covers most of the page this information about Megs can be Deduced from the Constitution only if it is in the right arrangement. The location of one the vaults is very well marked . if you fellows cant see the 3D items it may because the lighting is not correct
the time to adjust your eyes has to be a minimum of 15 minutes
if possible use a picture blown up about 6 feet rent an opaque projector sit there with it out of focus its not meant to be seen each object over layers the next objectinother words it abstracts Andrew Jackson said ARE the abstracts ready YET!! now was Andy known to the afore mentioned mens names . this treasure-involves the US treasury at that time. they gave Napoleon his freedom for His Treasury to buy His Land from MISSIP River over and of which payments he never would get. but old BERT and Jean Lafitte worked out a plan so it looked like pirates were stealing the payments in order to hide the theft
The three men at the hotel May have been Megs Jean and You Lafitte. i believe the treasure in Virginia is The Virginian Mummy the gold and silver i know is else where but dose exist there is one priceless hand held object. now this is of course how i interpret these mysteries and codes
i offered the gents on this board to come and show my 3d works i may donate them some day
but if i did that and i can it would reveal mystery of this code.
basically its a picture code not to be numbered among the living now i think the deceased are pictured separately .
convincing you the unseen 3D is not an my objective.
but drawing or bringing to l;light all thats dark in them its the dark area's to give definition to the 59 faces blended into another face.
there is a verse in the bible that states each face had another face almost every face has a face started on it just about all of them are only the nose mouth chin and eyes and behind the eyes of each face starts another face
BUT if you dint know what those fellows looked like how would you know what your looking at or for? Especially if they're intentionally hidden from view some of this is like the Chinese puzzle when it comes to words part of the word is some where else part of an O half is an C ** belonging jointly too**
When this code is finally broken remember i told you so.
it was not meant to ever be broken by common thinking or the common person there are Lot of surprises with this code some of it will change the dates in history. and some of this is not any where near VIRGINIA .
TOMm
PS
False or idiol Punctillio could be nubers used for purpose of shspe only. in other wurds some numbers dosen't mean there a number
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Post by TOMm on Mar 8, 2008 11:17:22 GMT -5
Good Morning Gents
what if you need a map AKA Key to guide you to the next number and the next and so on' while *tracing the rest* drawing a line then it would give and image or word and the images that are 3D would appear . its sorta reversed usually you need a map and words or pictures but this time you need a map to find pictures and words because you already have the numbers. for ex ample connect the dots from a list of numbers from the shape of the map./templates
i researched all of those mens names in the pamphlet andone ofg them has a pirates names on the list of known buckaneers.
TOMm
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Post by beale on Mar 9, 2008 10:09:42 GMT -5
TOMm,
If you know how to break the codes? And you say you have, why don't you recover the treasure and forget about all of this? Or why don't you publishe what you have or have a film crew to film what you have or what you have found?
If I had something and I knew I had something, I sure would not be wasting my time posting a little here and a little there trying to convince people I knew what I was talking about?
You and I have been through all of this before. I have offered to meet with you anytime, anywhere to open these caves or vaults that you say exist but for some reason or the other you are paranoid about the government is watching you and either they have taken something from you or are going to take something away from you.
Personally and I speak for myself, I think what you are posting is useless, worthless and if it was worth something cash in on it. But, please don't boast about seeing faces inside of faces and all of this other jargon. I see it as a fruitless waste of time even to read your post.
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Post by TOMm on Mar 9, 2008 12:04:28 GMT -5
Mr. beale
to answer
i gave 30 days on the film thing and said after 30 days no film from my part would be made 30 days are gone
about publishing i may do that some day
about meeting on the first offer you turned me down i give every man a fair chance only one!
about seeing faces and objects please answer this if you will have you tried any method of the dark room or contrast or 15 minuets of eye adjustment. ?
in an earlier post you agreed that the 3D method has some validity when you spoke with gldslngr did you not ?
about being paranoid no not but iam cautious since 1981 the Treasury department took a large ch ache of bars just like the man in North Carolina and his document and you even rebutted on that also but then recanted. i tell you what i give yo and the world one of the places that use it for a key in words not pictures PARADISE LOST top row of the constitution spelled backward in proper arrangement find this in letter *ARRANGEMENT* But heres the kicker because of the attitude to ward any thing that disagrees with you insight the main known key will remain with me Unless you try the dark room method with 3 other men then i might( emphasis added_ give the main key used for words Iam the individual THAT brought out the 3D ideas years a go after i found the thins that i found why are you wanting to bring out this treasure they are gonna try and take it from anyone thats uncovers it.
About not posting we went Thur this before and since i conducted my sell in high order of conduct and from this forum's genesis was to use and share open ideas of free thinking i am not stuck on moldy thinking but open minded enough with out bias to any man that can teach or show anew means of thought or provisioning the means of a new idea. in other words god made me and you a human being with the ability to think but we wre not give the right to judge one onther as has been in the past either direcly or indirectly suttle.
Thanks for your open response.
TOMm
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Post by Rebel KGC on Mar 9, 2008 17:19:25 GMT -5
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Post by gldslngr on Mar 9, 2008 18:57:33 GMT -5
All ideas, thoughts and musings are to me, welcome to read. There should be no preconceived notions when problems of a considerable nature are taken on. NO ONE has shown to have valid solutions to the Beale Codes. They could only be gibberish, but even that has not been proved conclusively. Think-tanks and problem solving bodies employ brain-storming to get the brain juices flowing. The human brain being an associative recall device, the most bizarre idea may lead to a breakthrough in how to proceed.
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Post by TOMm on Mar 9, 2008 22:11:14 GMT -5
evening gents
how about 50 or 60 of you fellows getting out the Constitution
and in the correct arrangement find PARADISE LOST it will be found in the very top row of the constitution and with that i am in hopes to gives some validity to my methods and findings.
it will be spelled backwards it is positively there; and then we will move on to the next needed piece of the pie
TOMm
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Post by elwood on Mar 12, 2008 15:04:42 GMT -5
gldslngr...
You say: "That 'No One' has shown to have--- a valid solution to the Beale Codes." *** Now... this 'WAS TRUE'... but, no longer! As you, and the others, will shortly find out. It will probably, take another couple of weeks, to '"copy & number" the "proper form" of the Declaration of Independence. "Copy & number" the "proper form" of the "C2 numbers placements." "Copy & number" the "proper form" of the "selected numbers" from 'C1 & C3.' Now... these "selected numbers" cannot be readily seen just by looking at the ciphers. They have to be 'realized.'
And 'if' all of you had studied the C2 Message... realized the "code" contained within. Solved it. And proceeded with those instructions... you would have already realized, what I am speaking of.
Elwood
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Post by gldslngr on Mar 13, 2008 19:50:57 GMT -5
ELwood; Looking forward to seeing your numbering arraignment and how you lay everything out.
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Post by elwood on Mar 13, 2008 21:55:34 GMT -5
gldslngr... or, who ever else, you 'really' are...
Now, you see... it's like this:
The Declaration of Independence... as provided in the pamphlet and as normally seen... is in-correctly numbered. Not enough words were included, so this throws the necessary 'count' off. But that's the way, everything is 'purposely set-up.'
The "C2 Message" code has to be solved. And utilized. There is 'no other way.' Unless you simply want someone to 'hand you the answers'... something I'm 'NOT going to do.' If this code had been realized '125' years ago... and what is found, had been realized... we wouldn't be doing this now. But we are. But this does then head you in the proper direction.
C1 & C3 have 'selected numbers'... about "1 32" of them. Which I can only compare to... 'looking for 4-leaf clovers in a forest.' And even there, when you find them... they become reduced to an even smaller group. Determined in the same way that the 'pamphlet Declaration is layed-out.'
These 'selected numbers' from both C1 & C3 are placed together, in a 'zig-zag pattern' to form a 'long sequence' of numbers which are then placed, back into the C2 cipher form(see example)... of a shorter structure. example: _ _ _ , _ _ ,_ _ ,_ _ _ , etc, etc. You simply take this new sequence of numbers... and place them in the "now, empty spaces."
Who says a cipher can't be used... twice!
Believe me... I don't want to do this anymore than I have to. I'm tired of it. Been at it since 1980. If I hadn't gotten a computer... I'd still be at it, sitting in a Library.
I have another project that I yearn to tackle: "The Coral Castle mystery"
But these things greatly interfere with my obligations here at home. Like right now... I'm re-building my back-porch(making it bigger and wider all the way around the house) and putting in a new walk-way down thru the yard to the 'work-shop.' Also... I work with another guy building houses. And I repair or re-build construction equipment. Specializing in Caterpillar's.
I've got a lot 'on my plate' to do now that Spring is here. Just hope I can 'hold out' till I'm finished... all of them.
I'm "60" now... and just have to slow-down.
Elwood
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Post by elwood on Mar 13, 2008 23:09:36 GMT -5
I haven't, as yet... solved the mystery, as I just stated.
But do you want "a 'Wild-Card' guess" as to where I think it is?
How about! "a small Jewish cemetery"... about 20ft by 20ft... surrounded by a 10ft high 'stone wall'... sitting by the side of a major traffic road... where "thousands of people"... see it "each and every day!!!
Elwood
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