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Post by David Charlie on Jan 20, 2004 15:24:49 GMT -5
No one wants to seems to wany to play anymore so I will play alone, I believe I will Play Luna-tic today ; ;D In the decipherment of code number 2, The following numbers are given: 4 miles from...6 feet below, and number "3" herewith. Also $13,000 in jewels. 463 reversed is 364, the number of days in a lunar year. 13,000 if looked at sideways could be 13 moons, there are 13 lunar cycles in a year. code number one has 520 sets of numbers The box is to be saved for 10 years Divide the treasure into 31 equal parts. Form a military formation. There was a full moon on May 6th, 1822 The key will reach you in June 1832 I shall remain a week or ten days The first ten words of the DOI have the numbers printed above the word, The last seven (counted consecutively) have the numbers printed to the right of the word. Who is familar with forming a military formation? If you are taller, what do you do? If you are shorter what do you do? There was nothing like order or method....... In the hands of a friend and so forth..... The articles and conditions signed along with hands... Hummmm sure sounds like paragraph 2 of the DOI. Oh well, just posting to be posting...........My keeper is calling....Time to take my Beale Pill. Forward "HO"
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Post by Rebel KGC on Jan 21, 2005 22:01:37 GMT -5
Yo! Rebel here: Yes... and it is 1/2005! ;D Where r we, now? Long live da KGC! ;D
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Post by Rebel KGC on Feb 21, 2005 8:06:37 GMT -5
Yo! Rebel here: ;D Not height-challenged nor order-challenged... ORDER OUT OF CHAOS! Sorry, reading book, 'Thriving On Chaos" by Tom Peters, and got carried away... ;D now B.T. story is seen as "cover-up" for REBS... Charlie's comment about ever seeing a "formation" (military)... sure does make more sense... for 2005... what say ye?
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Post by Rebel KGC on Apr 14, 2005 7:53:39 GMT -5
Yo! Rebel here: ;D 4/14/05... Out treasure hunting? OR... What say, ye all?
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Post by TOMm on May 15, 2005 22:35:38 GMT -5
Heres a hint
BOX = Box Elder Tree
IORN = IORN WOOD TREE
TOMm
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Post by Rebel KGC on May 16, 2005 11:30:41 GMT -5
Yo! Rebel here: ;D Have you found it, then?
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Post by elwoodchaney on Jun 5, 2005 7:07:03 GMT -5
Sometimes I really have to wonder about this thing... such as: has anybody ever looked into the 'other' D.o.I. : the "rough" copy. So very different! from the 'accepted' copy.
Or when I see a sentence, such as: "I loved him as I never loved A male before." And there are '4' variations of this sentence, all within close proximity to each other. It has an enclosure (I ..... ... .. I) and a set of numbers: 5 3 2 It even has a 'pointer'--- "I ..... ... .. I ..... ..... A .... ...... ." And the wording! definitely reminds me of Walt Whitman. Or is it just coincidental, that, when... C2 is "originally" deciphered... that the word 'gold' appears as "GoLd" and reversed is "dLoG"/d-LoG... Leaves of Grass
And finally, have we truly underestimated the value of the Jan5th letter.
Elwood Chaney
The other day I got to thinking about the name... Thomas Jefferson Beale... and how, by removing the T.J.B.--- you have: homas efferson eale... which, gives you a set of numbers: 5 8 4 ; and when anagrammed, gives you: freemason safe hole... and another set of numbers. Incidently... "eale" is a real word, and used by Shakespeare in Hamlet.
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Post by Rebel KGC on Jun 5, 2005 10:36:18 GMT -5
Yo! Rebel here: ;D Have YOU found it, then?
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Post by Elwood Chaney on Jun 7, 2005 8:05:04 GMT -5
Well, Reb... to tell 'ya the truth... I really don't know! You ask... "Have I found -- it?" Again, I must say... "I don't know!" because, I really have no substantive proof of what 'it' really is.
You read at the very end of the C2 message, that... "no difficulty will be had in finding it." Which seems to be an understatement at best. But that same section of the statement, when seen as it is "originally" to be seen (nodiFficuLtywiLLbehadiNfindiNGit)... I fall prey, now that I have seen it... to focusing on the last 3 letters of the message: G i t And to me, it seems to be something that you might say to your 'dog'... and that takes me to the 'dog' in the old part of the large cemetery (created 1866) up in Hagerstown, Maryland. Where I'm from. Lots of 'interesting' things in there. I took Charlie Mason there once. Said he had a good feeling about the place, too. I find it 'odd' how there is a section in Lewis Carroll's 1871 book: "Through the Looking Glass"... that 'describes' the place to a 'T.' Makes me wonder how Carroll would know so much about the history of the place and its contents, without having ever been there, in a cemetery... only 5 years old, at the time of his having written and publishing the book. Or 'why' it was included in the book. Do you realize also... that the next to last sentence, in the C2 message... is 'directions' to another small cemetery, in the very northern most part of Virginia, just before entering West Virginia. Way off the road... up on a hill... just barely discernable from off the main road. Its main contents are the "Butler" family. Maybe those same people that the letters refer to as to "procure a guide and two or three 'servants' " You have to admit that cemeteries are places... you only want to "visit"... per, the given instructions. In far Western Washington County... I found another oddity. I have always been engrossed by this story's word usage... such as "you have been 'unaniMOUSly' made one of our association." And there, in that little cemetery.... is a solitary grave... simply marked: MOUSE Nothing more than that... just "mouse." But then again, also... the story also mentions the names of several of the 'islands' of the Washington County area... in the Potomac River. Most definitely, very few people, other than maybe an occasional fisherman, have set foot on them since the Civil War. And all of them packed-tight and over-grown with trees. Seen by hundreds of people on a daily basis as they cross back-and-forth over the Potomac. But as I said... No One goes there, unless he has a boat and is fishing.
So... until I can get some 'real time' to get several other things finished... and see what they have to say, if anything at all... "I don't know a damned thing more than you do!" But you can take it to the bank... "I WILL"
Elwood Chaney
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Post by Rebel KGC on Jun 8, 2005 6:56:28 GMT -5
Yo! Rebel here: ;D Yep! Mr. Chaney, Hagerstown, Md. ah.... the memories... it was where I fought my first "battle" as Reb Scout, CSA... Co. I, 10th Va. Infantry... Stonewall Jackson's "Foot Soldiers"... Re-inactments... New Market... "war games" in the mountains... old mountaineer home... no running water... no electricity... MORE "HIGH TEST"! Also... the statement... "you have been unanimousely made one of our association..." COULD be... becoming a member of a FreeMasonic Lodge... gotta have no "black ball" , to get in... how I know? Past Worshipful Master, A.F. & A. M., 32nd Degree, Scottish Rite... Shriner... working on 6th Degree, Royal Arch... LGA! Long Live, the KGC! ;D
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Post by elwoodchaney on Jun 9, 2005 6:41:11 GMT -5
'Yo, Reb...
Let me know what you think of this: We have these documents (Beale Papers) that are "allegedly" written in 1822.
They, in turn, "allegedly"... are responsible around 1846 for the creation of what we have come to call--- the C2 Message. From this... one of the "alleged amounts" is the "and consisted of NINETEEN HUNDRED and SEVEN(1907) pounds of gold..."
Then some boys named "HART" appear. Who say they worked on the mystery, every moment, from 1897 to "1907." In the Jan 4th letter, it says: "... we soon became "HeARTily" tired."
Now... does this sound suspicious? Or the efforts of a cleverly constructed story... going well into the next century?
Elwood
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Post by Rebel KGC on Jun 9, 2005 15:17:15 GMT -5
Yo! Rebel here: ;D Replied earlier... "post" got swallowed up by "too many connections"... Ha! I have posted on many threads previously on this... I will just add... Hart Bros. = HEART, VERY important symbol of KGC... ha!
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Post by elwoodchaney on Jun 11, 2005 20:44:09 GMT -5
All in all... I would have to say, that this has been a great week-end!
The part that the Hart boys played in this mystery... is now clear to me. "Pearl"
The thing about the Peaks of Otter... is now clear to me.
Recently, I mentioned that I had found 4 sentences in one of the books, that had a capitalized 'A' in them, that should not have been there. This is now clear.
The 'key'... is now clear.
Even the 'method'... that not even Simon Singh(The Code Book) makes mention of... is now clear.
YES!!! It has been a very enlightening week-end.
Elwood
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Post by Rebel KGCYo on Jun 12, 2005 7:53:19 GMT -5
Yo! Rebel here: ;D (Speaking in Mafioso voice with southern accent... ) "If you find anything... I get 5 %..." ha! ha! ha!
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Post by elwoodchaney on Jun 12, 2005 13:31:40 GMT -5
I'll think about it! Ho-Ho-Ho!!!!
Mean-time... only one more thing to find.
A usable "CIPHER."
Elwood
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