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Post by robfromshasta on Jul 29, 2007 20:15:48 GMT -5
Just wanted to say Hello to everyone. I am new to this forum, fairly new to Texas (a year and a half, originally from California), and new to Treasue Hunting as well.
I usually occupy my spare time with my family, and my usual pastime is fishing, especially flyfishing.
We have recently, and currently, have had a lot of flooding here in Texas, so after hearing that after the waters go down, oftentimes it is a good time to hunt for rocks and fossils near the streambeds here.
This aroused my curiousity, so I checked out a few books, such as "Roadside Geology of Texas", "Gems, Crystals, and Minerals", and "Gem Trails of Texas" in order to educate myself.
Any tips, advice, or anything else would be appreciated. As I explore, I'll probably have questions.
Also, let me know what is considered "taboo" here. I remember from my flyfishing forums that if you find a cool, secret spot, or if someone shares one with you, that it's okay to talk about it, but not to post directions, unless it is a well known place.
I look forward to posting with all of you!
Rob
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Post by David on Jul 29, 2007 21:02:22 GMT -5
Hi Rob from Shasta,
I'm in Ark. after 40 years in Calif. my self....raised in Texas.
I don't know what part of Texas you are in but I lived for years in Killeen, as an army brat at Ft. Hood...
when I was a kid, attached to part of FT. Hood in Killeen there is a military housing project called Walker Village, right north of Walker Village is an Army Air Base and right north of that Air Base is a lone Mountain that was used to get limestone and gravel from years and years ago......back in the early 50's. As kids we called this place Chalk Mountain and would go to the quarry there and swim in the pond...also we attached no importance to it then but in some of the limestone there were fossils of leaves, ferns and tree limbs, also of fish, shell fish and other things I don't remember what all. I've always wanted to go back there and see if I could still get access and pick up some of those things as a kid of 8 or 10 didn't attach any importance to...god only knows how many of these fossils us kids broke in ignorance.
If you are interested in that sort of thing...get a chance might be a good place to go for a day or so. Don't know what the requirements are any more to get access but back then just walked there....was about maybe three miles from walker village where I lived.
And if you are in to Metal Detectors......East of Killeen about 3 or 4 miles on highway 190 on the south side...was a place called Hood village......I drove through there in '81 and Hood Village is no longer there all that remained was two brick buildings that one was the 1st grade school and the other was the Commissary and recreation center, all the roads were still there but none of the housing buildings just wide open...I had wished while I was there that I had a metal detector with me...buildings there in those days did not have air conditioning and people would sit on the open slate porches.. as a kid we would crawl under these porches and scratch around in the dirt and find change to go to the commissary and buy cold drinks....this housing project went defunct in maybe 1953 or 54. I lived there until I was in the third grade. Behind the red brick building that was the commissary was a large play ground for the kids, has swings, slide, teeter totter, ball field etc....might be a good excursion to go there and give it a try.
Hope this helps
David Mason
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Post by robfromshasta on Jul 29, 2007 21:15:29 GMT -5
That helps a lot. I live in Round Rock, and travel to Fort Hood on business on occasion. I can check out Chalk Mountain on a day trip. I have a few contacts at Fort Hood, and maybe I won't have an issue with access. I know security is very tight.
If I have success, I'll be sure to post it here.
Thank you.
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Post by David on Aug 6, 2007 8:52:15 GMT -5
Hey Robfromshasta,
I just noticed in telling you in my post above about Hood Villiage it was East of Killeen...That's wrong...Hood Villiage was West of Killeen about 3 miles or so toward Grey Airforce Base.
Dark Matter between my ears fading.
David
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Post by robfromshasta on Aug 6, 2007 17:28:37 GMT -5
Thanks for the info. Using Google Earth, I found a mountain just north of the airfield next to the Walker Village subdivision that looks quarried out pretty good, I'm guessing that may be it. I just need to get permission now. I'll see what I can do.
Next time I'm up there, I'll look for the old Hood Village. There has been a lot of recent development in that area, so I'm not sure if it will be a good spot anymore. I'll let you know.
Thank you!
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Post by Basherrr on Mar 14, 2008 2:25:43 GMT -5
Zoinks, I was linked here from the Beale Ciphers... Glad I found this thread. Just got out of the army after 5 yrs and am living in the Fort Hood area and bored out of my mind. Have always been interested in rocks and earth (Got a C+ in Introductory Soils in college, haha!). Possibly divine intervention that I found this site? Possibly? Anyway, something to check out, now that I have so much time on my hands! Thanks!
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Post by David on Mar 14, 2008 9:40:58 GMT -5
Basherrr,
I hope you can find a way to gain access to that old quarry...
I am going back more than 50 years in memory of that area but for any one who is interested in hunting for relics...
There is a gravel road (0r was at one time) that ran from the north side of Fort Hood just northeast of the golf course and went to the north west toward the old artillery range toward a stream or creek that was called Cow house Creek...An old wooden bridge spanned this creek...on the Right side of the road about 100 yards from this bridge toward the Fort Hood side was a place where the army disposed of old C-Rations and other things. There were heaps of this stuff that we used to prowl through...We used to ride our bikes down this road from Walker Village pulling a wagon or two and pick up the coke bottles we could redeem for two cents a bottle( would make 5 or 10 dollars on a good day) lot of money in the mid-fifties for kids..only cost a dime to go to a movie and cokes were a nickle...popcorn was a dime. NO telling what can be found in that dump area for the relic hunter if the area is still open to scrounge around in. One of my friends at the time found a broken and rusted carbine rifle and he just pitched it back into the heap. Little did we know back in those days. Yesterdays trash....todays treasures.
Also for the metal detector enthusiast...on the west side of Killeen following hwy 190 to farm road 440...at 440 turn left, a few hundred yards down the road is a bridge....follow the creek that the bridge crosses to the right about 1/2 mile down stream is an old swimming hole we called 7 oaks....the swimming hole may still be known, but no telling what kind of lost loot may be found on the surrounding banks....was a good place for Skinny Dipping in those days.. Then it was surrounded by a Cattle Ranch...probably been urbanized today... Hope this is helpful to anyone in the area.
David
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Post by Basherrr on Apr 5, 2008 23:28:38 GMT -5
Ok, well I finally had a chance to go exploring in the backwoods of Hood. Me and a buddy drove out there but didn't find what we were looking for. I am going off of an Army training map and your excellent description. We may have been in the completely wrong place, though. I will try and get a map and post it here, maybe scan this one. We walked about 6km from the intersection of Old Georgetown Rd and Cowhouse Creek almost all the way (I think) to West Range Rd. There is actually a Lone Mountain on this map, but it is within the boundaries of the firing ranges; not a very safe place to go. Would the wooden bridge you spoke of still be standing today? We did manage to find some remains of a bridge. Four large, red, metal pylons in a square shape, 4 on either side of the creek. Also, was it a loooong bike ride? Where we went to was nearly nowheresville. There is a House Creek seven or eight km south of Cowhouse Creek. Anyway, I will try to upload or link a map soon. I would like to get back out there next weekend, weather permitting. We did find snakes, frogs, minnows and more underwear than I'd care to talk about.
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Post by Basherrr on Apr 5, 2008 23:30:31 GMT -5
Also, in the SW corner of the intersection of Cowhouse Creek and Old Georgetown Rd is _supposed_ to be a quarry, according to the map. Did a quick reconnoiter, didn't find it, and kept moving since it didn't seem to match with your description. Do you think that could have been it?
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Post by David on Apr 7, 2008 22:27:52 GMT -5
Basherrr,
Yes it was a Looooong bike ride.
The bridge was nothing more than two wide planks that vehicle wheels would fit upon...it was open in the center...built like you see in WWII stories like crossing The Rhine...the bridge was not poontoon type but did sit on pylons...the dump I was referring to was on the Fort Hood side of the stream...to the right side of the road...as best I can remember about 100 yards or less from the road and maybe 100 feet or so from the water bank of cowhouse creek...it (the dump) covered about 100 yard area....I don't remember a quarry in this area, it's been 50 years since I was there...but it was there in 1955. Another thing I remember that may help pin point the location....On the gravel road going out to there is another stream you cross...the road went down a concrete embankment to the stream, you drove across the stream and up another concrete embankment....soldiers used to drive their cars down and wash them in the creek...but probably by now they have built a bridge across this stream butsomething of it may remain to help identify the area...I will try and google it and maybe better pin point where that dump is, if it has not been covered or removed there must be interesting items to find.... Wish I could go there with you and look.
I'll see if I can find a location and get back to you.
David
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Post by Basherrr on Apr 9, 2008 18:26:43 GMT -5
Ok, so we were on the wrong side of the creek!! I'm looking at my map again and I do see a marked off area just south of the creek which is a "Controlled Dig Site." Definitely worth checking out. Don't intend to do any digging, though. We saw enough small ordnance out there to know better. There's also a maintained trail that runs the length of the creek and we'll be bringing my pickup out there this time (not my friend's Honda, haha!). I'll be sure to keep you updated on our next excursion.
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Post by Basherrr on Apr 11, 2008 20:53:51 GMT -5
Ok, here is a pic of the area I think it's in. We explored the north side of the creek ( ) . I circled in red/maroon the marked quarries that I think it might be. What do you think? HTML and such is difficult for me, especially when inebriated, so please copy and paste it into you browser. i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll16/pangloss83/fthood.jpg
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Post by David on Apr 14, 2008 14:14:23 GMT -5
Hey Basherrr,
I Googled Fort Hood and followed out the roads and it was definitely West Range road......It's been new and improved from back When... but if you follow it to the Bridge crossing Cowhouse Creek and look over to the left (at the Creek) you should see the remains of an old bridge with a gravel road leading up to it..That used to be the West Range road...between that old gravel road and the new road/bridge is the area I was trying to direct you to where the old dump was.
That is the best I can do.....everything around Killeen has changed so much by the google Map and Fort Hood being blanked out made it difficult to follow but was able to find the place I once lived and followed the roads I could remember.
go find some good stuff......later
David Mason
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