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Post by Rebel KGC on Dec 21, 2008 18:58:14 GMT -5
;D GREAT! Good LUCK to BOTH of you...
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Post by elwood on Dec 28, 2008 0:13:35 GMT -5
Albert:
I can't figure you---- to be the kind of guy, who would, take all these years, chasing this mystery... just to up and walk away!!! Surely, you realized years ago... that, there is 'NO Treasure'... in a 'monetary sense!' Just the thrill... of the Hunt.
The original creator, of this mystery, once said: "You can convince darn-near anybody, that something is real... if, first... you put it in print! The rest is easy" by Mark Twain
"The key will 'COME T'o you in time"
Being very fond of English writers... I guess it is only fitting that he chose the following: Hamlet-- Act 1-- scene 4: "From that particular fault: the dram of eale!" (B)eale
I'll let you all know, soon as I can... what the single message contained in C1 + C3 combined says.
Elwood
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Post by Rebel KGC on Dec 28, 2008 7:58:37 GMT -5
Waiting with "bated breath"...
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Post by beale on Dec 28, 2008 16:30:27 GMT -5
Albert: I can't figure you---- to be the kind of guy, who would, take all these years, chasing this mystery... just to up and walk away!!! Surely, you realized years ago... that, there is 'NO Treasure'... in a 'monetary sense!' Just the thrill... of the Hunt. The original creator, of this mystery, once said: "You can convince darn-near anybody, that something is real... if, first... you put it in print! The rest is easy" by Mark Twain "The key will 'COME T'o you in time" Being very fond of English writers... I guess it is only fitting that he chose the following: Hamlet-- Act 1-- scene 4: "From that particular fault: the dram of eale!" (B)eale I'll let you all know, soon as I can... what the single message contained in C1 + C3 combined says. Elwood Elwood, We haven't talked in a long time. You do not know whom the author is of the "Job Print Pamphlet" commonly called the Beale Treasure Mystery? You assume to much when you research and you read to much trying to make the "Beale Treasure Codes" say something that they are not saying. I have researched and followered every lead or tidbit of information that I could find over the past 24 soon will be 25 years. I can't say positively that the Beale Treasure actually happened. I know it did. The treasure is still there to find at least one half to portions of the treasure are still there. I have researched and came down to two good spots with a third that is over 20 miles away. One of the first two locations is where TJB buried and concealed the treasure, the third is where his partner moved this portion of the treasure to-------which amounted to about $25,000 in specie or bullion ---today worth in bullion about 40X as much and in specie about twice that, so this small cache alone is worth from $1 to $3 Million Dollars. I believe the other 30 shares are still buried in the iron pots with iron lids where they were originally placed. I will find out definite in the coming months. So, Elwood, as you can see the reason I am giving up on the Beale Treasure is because I am going to recover it next year. Not because my search has been in vain, it has not. Albert
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Post by elwood on Dec 28, 2008 17:38:02 GMT -5
Albert:
You and Rebel... have both had more than enough time to 'prove me wrong!' But you can't. How about the both of you "put'in up, or shuttin'up!"
I CAN PROVE!... everything I say. Let's see your PROOF for a change! Anything at all! A-N-Y-T-H-I-N-G authenticatable!
elwood
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Post by Rebel KGC on Dec 28, 2008 17:44:11 GMT -5
Reporting LIVE!... From the front porch in Hagerstown, West - by-GOD! Virginia... Let the PONTIFICATION begin... Waiting for YOU... to prove yer correct...
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Post by beale on Dec 28, 2008 19:08:11 GMT -5
As my post said, Elwood, it will have to wait until next year. I am not going to post any of the facts and information I have until after the Beale Treasure is recovered.
As for what you say you have authenicated, authenicated what? You have posted nothing of authenication and you have not posted anything that deciphers the codes ----- I HAVE AND I HAVE IT FOR SALE TO PROVE THAT IT IS AUTHENICATED AND COPYRIGHTED. What do you have quotes from books and EAP
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Post by Rebel KGC on Dec 28, 2008 20:16:08 GMT -5
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Post by Rebel KGC on Dec 28, 2008 22:25:25 GMT -5
WILDCARD! THANKS for yer correction... ALWAYS got MD. and WVA. mixed up, and knew U were from WVA, like Albert, at one time; it was NORTH of Winchester, VA of the Shenandoah Valley... was ALL, I could remember. PLEASE DO share yer "explanation" of this mystery... inquiring minds wanna know...
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Post by key master on Dec 29, 2008 6:51:50 GMT -5
Let see 31 people leave an area and don't come back, but leave all the people they know behind? a blind man can still know something's wrong with that. Albert has proven that and will finish this story I promise.
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Post by Rebel KGC on Dec 29, 2008 7:47:07 GMT -5
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Post by elwood on Dec 29, 2008 13:31:45 GMT -5
The way to "SOLVE" any mystery... has always been, to "find the SMOKING GUN!"
As, it is here--- the "Smoking Gun!!!"
In the middle of the C2 message, it says: "TWELVE HUNDRED and EIGHTY EIGHT of silver;" (1288)
NOT 'twelve hundred and eighty seven' or 'twelve hundred and eighty nine'... but, 'twelve hundred and eighty eight'
Isn't it odd, that this 'alleged amount!' excavated at random from the earth, is the same as:
Serial Volume 1288 - United States Government, Executive Documents of the House of Represenatives, Second Session of the Thirty-ninth Congress, 1866-67, Government Printing Office 1867 The Official Government Investigation into the Assasination of President Abraham Lincoln
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Post by beale on Dec 29, 2008 14:21:37 GMT -5
And you mean what? You can take any number or I should say numeral and make it say or represent about anything. Like the total amount of gold-------2906 pounds-------could mean 29th of June. To search for words and meanings of numerals that mean nothing but the number itself is self-defeating and time consuming and will never be the "key" to solving a cipher code.
I believe that the original DOI that was available in 1821-22 is the "KEY" to the Beale Cipher Code. TJB said in his letter to R. Morris that he left a letter with the "KEY" with a friend in St. Louis, MO and that it would not be mailed until 10 years later. Usually a singular use of "KEY" should mean only one "KEY" but you can arrange and change the method of how the "KEY" is used in three or more ways. And this is exactly what I believe TJB did, the only problem being no one has figured out this method.
Others might agree with your method but I myself do not believe that TJB secretly hid his "KEY" inside of a "KEY" that being the decipherment of Paper Number Two and that is where you get your numeral 1288 from but I most certainly don't believe that 1288 has anything to do with the Assassination of A. Lincoln.
As for you saying that rebel and I can not prove that you are wrong, that is not our task, it is up to you to prove to us that you are right and that you have did it in a legitimate mannner than I or anyone else can do also. And quite frankly, posting a number and a quote of a book or document from one numeral does not make it authenicated and it certainly does not decipher any code?
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Post by elwood on Dec 29, 2008 14:33:48 GMT -5
Your question is also easily explained.
There never was an expedition by these men... to the WEST.
They went East.
And if ANYONE else wants the truth about the 'alleged' Beale Treasure mystery: 3bearsinwv@comcast.net
elwood
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Post by elwood on Dec 29, 2008 14:47:00 GMT -5
And for your information... I'm right on the border... between WV and Virginia. Top of the mountain... w-a-y-y back in the woods.
elwood
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