|
Post by kydave on Oct 19, 2009 10:39:46 GMT -5
Come on "Rockhound"! I know you got some new info! Don't be holding out on us!
|
|
|
Post by Rebel KGC on Oct 24, 2009 19:35:06 GMT -5
You mean Albert? From ROY... DAN GOLD 30; DANVILLE; "2nd longitudinal number. 79.22XX - which goes right through DANVILLE." I KNEW IT! REBEL GOLD!
|
|
|
Post by beale on Oct 25, 2009 20:43:15 GMT -5
Hi Rebel,
Nope that longitude does not go through Danville. It is 9 miles east of Danville. Since, longitude runs north and south, if you go further north, that particular longitude is near Brush Tavern, Timberlake near Lynchburg and along the railroad at Richland Hills. Good try though. Brush Tavern is 79.22999 Have a good day. Albert
|
|
|
Post by Rebel KGC on Oct 26, 2009 6:36:23 GMT -5
;D THANKS, beale! Will look at BT, then...
|
|
|
Post by kydave on Nov 1, 2009 8:22:44 GMT -5
Quite in here! Guess nobody's diggin either? Been diggin a few Civil War relics, thats fun!
|
|
|
Post by beale on Nov 1, 2009 9:55:01 GMT -5
Hi kydave, I have not had time to do anything but work. We have been working overtime and six days a week since vacation, I believe 18 straight weeks. I only get to do a lot of research and go over research I have already obtained. Wish I had time to put a metal detector to the ground again. As far as the site of my dig for the Beale Treasure I have not spoken to the landowners as deer season as begun again. Maybe this time next February work will slow down, deer season will be over and I can get permission to check the site out and recover the Beale Treasure. I don't know how any of the others are doing with their dig sites. One was supposed to have been finished in May----the fellow from Texas. And the treasure recovery bunch from PA they must have come up with an empty vault also. Maybe they will post and let us know of their circumstances or misfortunes? Have a great day kydave keep looking maybe you will find a Civil War Payroll either in gold and silver or greenbacks.
|
|
|
Post by Rebel KGC on Nov 1, 2009 13:15:41 GMT -5
;D It IS quiet in da house... NO one is stirring, not even a mouse. The "mouser" (cat) is NOT interested, and SO! We wait on Roy...
|
|
|
Post by kydave on Nov 3, 2009 12:12:18 GMT -5
Thanks Albert, Hope i have that kind of luck! I know some people that have been digging on a friends property up in Indiana but they won't tell what their looking for. Sounds like a good place to try out the old Dowsing rods to see if they really do work for some people.
|
|
|
Post by beale on Nov 3, 2009 22:01:19 GMT -5
kydave, Have you did any research on the copperheads during the Civil War in Indiana. I believe there were upwards of 60 to 80,000. Google the Northwest Conspiracy. A lot of contraband as well as huge amounts of gold and silver were sent and spent in Indiana by the CSA CIA of which Judah Benjamin was the man in charge. They also was able to get their own Governor elected in Indiana---the CSA I mean. They had plans to burn Chicago and did burn New York as well as rob three banks in Vermont taking over $150,000 in gold. They also relieve a Yankee Payroll on the Red River in Arkansas of over $2 Million Dollars in gold and silver. Also a huge amount of guns were cached in Indiana for an uprising of the Northwest Territory and it's separation from the USA. There is every chance of huge hordes of CSA Gold and Silver being stashed in Indiana. As far as your dowsing, go to the property take your best read go to the opposite side either left or right take another best read and if there is any treasure on the property you can see almost where it is buried. Good luck. Albert
|
|
|
Post by Ron Gervais on Nov 8, 2009 11:13:23 GMT -5
Gentlemen:
If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and waddles like a duck, then it must be a duck.
And so it it that The Beale Papers is a dime novel written by John W. Sherman, a prolific dime novelist, employed by Charles W. Button, owner of the publisher Virginian Book and Job Print, and cousin to James B. Ward who applied for copyright on his behalf.
Recent research into his other novels have revealed many plot similarities. He was a one-story novelist with variations. His first novel, Out With General Crook, published in 1883, already established his technique of blending real historical personalities (General Crook, Indian Chiefs) and events (Indian wars) with fiction. Treasures, fortunes, gold mines, caves and secret tunnels, letters, codes and secret messages, Indians, inns and tavern keepers appear in every one of them. See details on Page 24 of my website, Beale Ciphers Analyses.
The professional cryptological community, and I have been in touch with many, is ashamed to admit that their ranks have been boondoggled for so long by such a simple trick. Treasure hunters don't want to abandon their dream of striking it rich.
And so the world turns.
|
|
|
Post by beale on Nov 8, 2009 20:03:20 GMT -5
Ron, I have read your website. It is quite convincing but not enough for myself to abandon the search. And I am quite certain others will continue the search. I have read numerous websites such as yours, they are convincing but still leaves a lot of uncertainity and doubt.
As your portrayal of James Beverly Ward is revealed as a scam artist out to make a buck as well as the owners of the Job Print Newspaper. I don't believe this, I prefer to believe Clayton Hart's meeting with James Beverly Ward and his son. Clayton said James Beverly Ward was an upstanding man and all of his friends and family alike said they believed James Beverly Ward when he said every word of the story printed was the truth. I like that part "TRUTH."
|
|
|
Post by Ron Gervais on Nov 9, 2009 6:44:52 GMT -5
Not at all a "scam artist". It started out as a charitable project to help the victims of the 1883 fire. Ward was in it for this, and to help out a cousin. It was only later, in 1886, after Sherman bought the newspaper and it ran into financial trouble that he advertised extensively and took the money to help his paper.
|
|
|
Post by beale on Nov 9, 2009 19:16:21 GMT -5
Ron is this what you believe or do you have verifiable proof?
|
|
|
Post by Ron Gervais on Nov 10, 2009 7:19:40 GMT -5
There is plenty of proof. Whether it meets your criteria of verifiable is for you to decide.
The fire was in May 1883. This was a disastrous event for a small town and the whole community pitched in to help the victims' families.
Ward applied for copyright in March 1884, 10 months later.
The first announcement of the publication of the pamphlet was April 1885. Ward was the contact for purchase at 50 cents. After that he disappeared from the sequence of events.
Sherman bought the newspaper from Button in November 1885. Shortly after, it ran into financial difficulty. From April to August 1886, the booklet was advertised 84 times in his paper at 10 cents, and the purchase contact was his office boy at the newspaper's address. He declared bankruptcy in February 1887.
He was a prolific dime novelist. He was a first cousin of Ward. All his other novels have similar plots. His newspaper in previous years had stories about gold finds out west, and buried treasure.
All of these are historical verifiable facts.
As for the Hart Papers and "truth", the part I remember most were the sessions with a psychic. Your choice.
|
|
|
Post by treasure1822 on Nov 10, 2009 17:22:39 GMT -5
Gentlemen.....
I need to inject my two cents. Let me first ask some questions to Mr. Gevais. 1) Is it possible that Sherman could have seen the "Beale Papers" prior to his carreer in ten cent novels? Remember Ward had had the papers since 1862 and they were first cousins. 2) After Ward had published the papers could Sherman bought the rights to the papers from Ward which might have help bring on the financial troubles of the paper.
How about Mr. Ward after 20+ years of trying to solve the papers on recomendation of his cousin decided to publish the papers and try to aquire some type of financial gain from them. His cousin Mr. Sherman seeing the interest that it had brought on decided to buy the rights of the papers from first cousin Ward and then dropping the price to make it more affordabe to the public and possibly increasing the sales of his own material.
Remember there are a lot of errors in the "Beale Pamphlets" and you would think that if it was a "stunt to generate cash only" they would have proof read the material.
|
|