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Post by Rockhound on Jul 18, 2004 14:20:47 GMT -5
Just how long have you been involved with the ciphers? Would you describe yourself as "Obsessed" or merely "interested"? I'm curious to know what kind of commitment you have all given to the ciphers so your replies (in addition to your participation in the poll) would interest me greatly. A little personal background info would be great too, if you feel so inclined Rockhound Note: You must be logged in to take part in the poll.
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Post by Rockhound on Aug 1, 2004 18:52:46 GMT -5
Come on folks, do me a favour!!! Log in and cast a vote! It won't take more than a minute, unless you decide to leave a message, and even then it's unlikely that it'll take you more than 2 mins! I really could do with a little more support from you guys to make this forum work you know!
Simply "reading" the posts won't make the forum a success. You gotta participate! Do I sound bitter? Yeah? Why shouldn't I? Please remember, I didn't set this forum up just for my own benefit!
All I ask is that you consider this forum, your own, as I intended it to be, and support it.
Rockster.
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Post by tjb on Aug 4, 2004 17:45:45 GMT -5
Rockhound,
I have worked on the cypher codes since August, 1965. Forty years of Beale Treasure hunting will be under my belt come next year.
I have written and copyrighted a pamphlet on how I decyphered the codes in 1990. I placed my decipherment on the crashed treasure forum. I don't know if anyone copied it or not.
There was a complete decipherment of code paper number one and code paper number three. In code paper number three, I deciphered the names and addresses of all thirty member of Beale's Party and even a share for Robert Morriss.
I have been on the Discovery Channel, "Arthur C. Clark's Mysterious Universe." This being about the Beale Treasure. I also appeared on the Fox Network, "Million Dollar Mysteries." I have been asked to appear on the History Channel and several local television stations to talk about the Beale Treasure. I appeared on all of them except the History Channel, I turned them down. I believe that show was later aired with Will Smith and Jones (sorry I can't remember his first name. "
Well, that about wraps it up for me. I have made over 230 round trips of 180 miles or more to Bedford, thirty of these were in ten days while Mel FIsher was digging at Grahams Mill on 460. Talk to you later, rockhound.
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Post by digital man on Aug 6, 2004 3:06:56 GMT -5
Hmm... where is this "complete decipherment"?
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Post by martin sheerin on Aug 6, 2004 16:25:06 GMT -5
Hi Rickhound, to answer your poll I have been working on the Beale mystery on and off for about four years since 2000. All my work has centred around getting key documents in American history and substituting tem into the ciphers. I used the Dec. Of Ind, US Constitution, Virginia Local Dec Of Ind, and EAPoes The Gold Bug and another story which escapes me at the moment. With thesze documents I beleive that I have found certain key words within cipher 1 but these could be random hits. If anyone wants to see my work then they can e mail a request to me. I haven't been to Virginia to see the sites, only read Peter Viemeisters book on the subject. It has been an interesting hobby up to now and I hope to continue as I feel a solution is there to be found. Oh well, speak soon, Martin Sheerin
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Post by tjb on Aug 6, 2004 21:13:02 GMT -5
digital man,
Since, my decipherment was copyrighted, you can find a copy at the Library of Congress. If rockhound likes, I could reprint it here on his forum. It will take quite a while, but I could send a copy.
I am not saying that my decipherment is completely accurate. I did not use a document, only substitution of words instead of letters. I had about two out of every three cyphers that repeated themselves, with the same letter on each cipher. I did have all thirty of Beale's Party names and where their next of kin could be located to give them their share of the treasure.
I have seen at least two other decipherments of the codes that looked fairly accurate. But, until we decipher the codes with only about a five percent of inaccuracy; then we may be close to breaking the codes. Let me know rockhound and I will post my decipherment?
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Post by Rockhound on Aug 7, 2004 0:04:57 GMT -5
Thank's for participating guys, this is proving most interesting. I certainly hope others will be inspired to follow suit with their own stories.
TJB, you are more than welcome to post your decipherment, I'm sure it will generate a lot of replies. Bearing that in mind, might I suggest you create a new thread for it so as not to derail this topic?
Incidentally, can I take this opportunity to encourage guests to sign up for full membership (and remind members to log in)? It's free, you won't be spammed (I promise) and you will be able to cast your vote in polls such as this one, send private messages to other members, create a personal profile etc.
Thanks again,
Rockhound.
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Post by TOMm on Aug 8, 2004 22:32:35 GMT -5
i have been working on this treasure over 30 years and ever since my old friend showed me a brashear dubloon and since the feds started looking at him in the early 60s he dynamited the hole inward now heres what was and still is in that hole a bout a hundred thousand silver bars and stacks and stacks of one hundred dollar bill gold notes and if any one is going to complete this treasure code it will have to include the 3D Numbers blown up to about six feet or it will be a lot of digging for naught there are at least ten lesser vaults and if Albert wants to see one vault with proof ill be more than glad to put up or shut up TOM
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Post by tjb on Aug 11, 2004 16:10:17 GMT -5
Tom,
I like calling a hand where it doesn't cost me anything. Put Up.
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Post by pope on Aug 15, 2004 7:16:27 GMT -5
Just registered yesterday. I am interested, not obssessed. Have looked at this for 25 years. Once went to Peaks of Otter, camped, and worked on code. I am amused at those who write their own solutions and call them valid. I don't know why someone with computer savvy hasn't programmed and cracked it. Perhaps they have. I live near Bedford and see nothing that would send me just a few miles to look.
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Post by Rockhound on Aug 15, 2004 17:40:23 GMT -5
I don't know why someone with computer savvy hasn't programmed and cracked it. It's interesting that you should make the connection between computers and the Beale codes. I believe I have found a method by which any code constructed in the way the Beale Codes were, can be cracked by utilising a little known and shamefully underutilised programming method known as "The Genetic Algorythmn". My involvement with the Beale codes began some 8 - 10 or more years ago (I can't remember exactly) when I read a chapter devoted to the Beale story in the book "Archimedes Revenge" by Paul Hoffman. Having read several books on the subject of the genetic algorythm and artificial life programming, I immediately saw the possibility that a solution could be "evolved" rather than detected or deduced. I began to program on my old Commodore Amiga using the "Blitz Basic" programming language (with a few add ins). I spent something in the region of 5-6 years honing and tweaking my program with varying degrees of success. In that time I became more and more convinced that a solution would be found using just such a program but the limitations of my machine became painfully apparent. Now I have a PC with far greater memory and processing power, certainly up to the job but with one vital drawback; I no longer have the programming skills to begin again and therefore complete the task. If anyone out there considers themselves equal to the task of programming what turned out to be quite a large piece of code (from scratch) I'd be more than happy to collaborate! I'm sure there are several "possible" solutions to the codes, one of which must be the correct one! My program can find them all, potentially! The beauty of this method is that it requires no research, no previous knowledge of Beale or the history surrounding him and no need to painstakingly number any documents of the era! Additionaly, if the program produced any results that tallied with results found by other persons using other methods then so much the better! I wouldn't for a second suggest that my method is "better" than anyone elses, just easier and less labour intensive! Apart from the initial effort involved in programming, it would appear to be almost a "something for nothing" excercise! Bearing all of this in mind, my use of this method and approach obviously eliminates me from any discussion concerning the more traditional methods, ie, the search for applicable documents, researching historical documents vis-a-vis Beale/Ward/Buford etc. I would appear quite ignorant in any discussion of that sort and therefore absent myself from any such debate or conversation. I trust you can all get by without my input Rockster
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Post by pope on Aug 17, 2004 6:03:00 GMT -5
Yes, I think a search for texts could go on forever. Your way is the way to go. The solution, in my opinion, lies in the character duplications and placement. Seems a program could be designed to hit all the possibilities. My attemps are very crude. So you like A. Pope, greatest English poet of the 18th century. Far better than Dryden and menaced by one, was it Dennis? Pope, who had no offspring, lived on a small estate in his later years, where he searched for treasure. Well, you said we have to stick to treasure here. Hope this board proves a success.
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Post by Snake on Nov 15, 2004 17:00:21 GMT -5
TOMm, How do you know the number of vaults? Are they all associated with Beale? How do you know? You keep stating facts but don't offer any proofs! I'm not trying to be a smart ass, I just want to know how you got your information... I also assume from your post that you don't think any of the 'deciphered' texts are correct?
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Post by Rebel KGC on Jan 16, 2005 11:06:27 GMT -5
Yo! Rebel here: "off & on"... "back & forth"... "in & out"... nuff said... ;D Long live da KGC!
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Post by Rebel KGC on Feb 20, 2005 20:33:50 GMT -5
Yo! Rebel here: ;D Now that the Beale Treasure "Mystery" is solved... all contentions must be dissolved... Mr. Beale, set us free... "anal retentives"... no longer, be!
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