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Post by Rebel KGC on Mar 21, 2011 9:03:08 GMT -5
;D HIGH-TEST! RELATED to Beale Treasure "mystery"; reading THE BEALE TREASURE: NEW HISTORY OF A MYSTERY by PV (RIP). James Risque (formerly of Fincastle, Va.) had a HUGE plantation between New London and Lynchburg, Va. ADJACENT to Poplar Forest, and FOUR MILES SOUTH OF FOREST, VA. I suspect THIS is the "source" of OLD PLANTATION DRIVE "next to" Timberlake road, as you veer off to Rt. 460, going WEST to Roanoke, Va. If you have the book, read pg. 119-140. MORE, later!
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Post by Rebel KGC on Mar 21, 2011 9:39:19 GMT -5
;D Here is why I am sorta "excited"; FOUR MILES SOUTH OF FOREST, VA is where a "legend" of CSA $$$$$$$$$$ put in a dried up old STONE-lined well (A VAULT!); "slaves" put the CSA $$$$$$$$$$ at the bottem of the well, covered it with dirt... THEN, were murdered, put on TOP of the "vault". It was then "mounded over" by "thoses in the know", with a tree (PROBABLY an acacia tree). TODAY, it all looks like an empty field; I have NO idea WHO OWNS IT. FREEMASONS, remember the SPRIG OF ACACIA!
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Post by Rebel KGC on Mar 21, 2011 12:39:04 GMT -5
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Post by beale on Mar 21, 2011 16:03:42 GMT -5
Any relation to James Beverly Risque? I believe during the Civil War the Plantation belonged to General Marshall. We discussed it somewhere on this forum. I have a topo-map of the area and I was going to get up that way and check the area out but you know the routine------no time. I may get up that way in the next two or three weeks. I will let you know if there is anything there. All I need is to get within a mile or two. I wish I could find a landowner that was willing to take a chance and let me dig one of these treasures up. I now have seven that needs digging. Oh Well. Albert
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Post by Rebel KGC on Mar 21, 2011 20:18:29 GMT -5
I DO believe it WAS the Marshall Plantation, during the Civil War; I can meet you at the 7-11 on Rt. 460 WEST, just off Timberlake Road, Lynchburg, Va.; you MAY well be correct about the "family connection". "Google"... "ACACIA TREE" to get an idea, what one looks like; they MAY be "flowering" soon. AND! It WAS JAMES, not JOHN... SORRY, folks! The four "old guys", are now known as... "the 4 Venerables"! BTW, beale... do you know who Marshall Plantation was named for? Can't find a Gen. Marshall, CSA.
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Post by beale on Mar 22, 2011 5:01:27 GMT -5
Try McIntosh and see what you come up. He may have not been a General-----------he may have been under the General that never surrendered escaped from Appomattox with his whole regiment of which Buck Wright and Bear Tolly were members. I can't think of his name but it will all come back. He attended Buck Wright's funeral and all of the surviving regiment did too in Charlottesville, Va. Albert
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Post by Rebel KGC on Mar 22, 2011 6:13:35 GMT -5
;D OK, will do... sounds like McIntosh Apples; MAY be from Apple Valley off the BRP... ANOTHER "rumored source" of the BT. "Under the Lion's Head"... a "BRIT thing"; PROBABLY Charlemont area of Bedford County, Va. between Jackson Mountain and No Business Mountain. ANYWAY, "Googled"... "History of MARSHALL Lodge # 39"; was named after Justice John Marshall; who was ALSO GrandMaster of FreeMasons in Virginia "at that time" (BEFORE Civil War). NOT certain of Marshall Plantation "connection". LATER; I am "TATER"... LOL (private joke).
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Post by Rebel KGC on Mar 22, 2011 7:33:35 GMT -5
;D McIntosh Farm was 1 mile south of Forest, Virginia... and a few miles WEST of Lynchburg, Va. near Poplar Forest; CSA General had GOLD, SILVER, & JEWELRY thrown into "dried up well" during the Civil War. STILL in Bedford County, Va. NOT sure who the REBEL general was...
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Post by Rebel KGC on Mar 22, 2011 7:53:25 GMT -5
;D It is JAMES RISQUE PLANTATION ON OLD PLANTATION DRIVE; McIntosh Farm is of "interest" also, since CIVIL WAR treasures in VIRGINIA was my FIRST "love"; originally from the Shenandoah Valley, VIRGINIA, you see. LOTS of treasure caches, up in those "hills"!
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Post by Rebel KGC on Mar 23, 2011 10:36:48 GMT -5
;D The James Risque Plantation in Bedford County, outside of Lynchburg, VA? (SOUTH West side of Lynchburg...). OLD PLANTATION DRIVE; POSSIBLY going into Campbell County, Va. EAST of New London, BEDFORD COUNTY, VIRGINIA), IS connected to the Beale Treasure "mystery"? It seems that LATER, the James Risque Plantation was MARSHALL PLANTATION, with McIntosh Farm, nearby. Poplar Forest (Thomas Jefferson) is in the area, too. NOW! As to McIntosh Farm... on LOST TREASURE, USA - State Treasures web-site: #2 "During the Civil War, a Confederate general & some slaves concealed more than $ 4 millions in GOLD coins & bullion on the McIntosh Farm, about 1 mile south of Forest, (Va.) and a few miles WEST of Lynchburg, Va. One version states that the GOLD was thrown down a DEEP well... that was filled in; and in another version, the GOLD was buried near a barn, and the slaves killed to keep the location SECRET." (VIRGINIA state treasures of LOST TREASURES, USA web-site).
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Post by Rebel KGC on Mar 23, 2011 16:02:59 GMT -5
;D That is ALL, gonna "post" on Marshall Plantation & McIntosh Farm on THIS ''thread"; check MORE MYSTERIES, LATER. MORE R & I on JAMES RISQUE PLANTATION, to come... SOON! ;D .
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Post by Rebel KGC on Mar 24, 2011 9:16:38 GMT -5
FIRST... JAMES BEVERLY Risque was a BIG attorney in Fincastle, Va.; sold real estate... becoming VERY wealthy. According to THE BEALE TREASURE: NEW HISTORY OF A MYSTERY by PV (RIP) "Major James Beverly Risque is a PIVOTAL character whose ghost haunts the Beale Treasure"; (p. 119). "He knew Robert Morriss. He was related to JAMES B. Ward; a look at his life (Risque) will give insight into the VERACITY of the treasure"; (p. 119). LATER... "(h)e had heard of a new town on the James River, fifty miles from Fincastle, named Lynchburg"; (p. 120) Risque was a BODYGUARD of Gen. Andrew Jackson in the War of 1812. NOW! After the War of 1812, Risque sold ALL his stuff in Fincastle and moved to LYNCHBURG, Va. being the "center" of the "tobacco trade". He practiced LAW, and bought land in Campbell & Bedford Counties; had a town house in Lynchburg, Va. and a HUGE plantation in Bedford County, Va., which included HUNTER'S HILL. NOW! THIS is the BEST part... his very first GRANDCHILD was... JAMES BEVERLY Ward, born on Jan. 27th (MY BD, too), 1822. JB PROBABLY sat on his granddaddy's knee, hearing stories of New Orleans, Thom. Beale I & II Robert MORRISS (who JB Risque knew), etc. etc. MORE, later... time for some "Sun & FUN"! ;D
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Post by Rebel KGC on Mar 24, 2011 14:05:10 GMT -5
;D Hmmm... JB Risque knew Robert Morriss; JB WARD is JB Risque's grandson; NOW, we know why Robert Morriss entrusted the SECRET of the Beale Treasure to JB Ward; it was a "family thing"! Robert Morriss' wife Sarah had PREVIOUSLY lived (& died) with JB Ward & family, PROBABLY in Forest, Va. (They had a home there, with two daughters) AND! A WARD descendant is who PV (RIP) got the ORIGINAL "Job Print"... the BEALE PAPERS, from; copy is in THE BEALE TREASURE: NEW HISTORY OF A MYSTERY, pg. 22-44. JB Ward got the copyright, 1885; (p. 44). They BOTH (Morriss & Ward), may have been FreeMasons...
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Post by Rebel KGC on Mar 24, 2011 19:51:51 GMT -5
;D Info on JB WARD, "BEYOND" the "JOB PRINT"... was taken from CAMPBELL COUNTY CHRONICLES & FAMILY SKETCHES - WARD FAMILY; LAST "entry" on JB Ward's parents. Giles & Adeline... DAUGHTER of Major James Beverly Risque; has names of JB Ward's "kids".
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Post by Rebel KGC on Mar 24, 2011 21:50:19 GMT -5
;D Bet JB Ward lived in Forest, Va. at first bc "granddaddy" JB Risque gave his parents land or a house as a "wedding present" from HIS "plantation"... LATER, JB Ward moved to Lynchburg, Va.
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