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Post by beale on May 20, 2007 14:50:04 GMT -5
Apple Valley is where Robert Morriss owned property and a house of his is still standing. Also another treasure hunter told me that a Thomas Read buried the Beale Treasure and that it was not Thomas Beale. The homesite of Thomas Read's parents is in Apple Valley also? The house is no longer standing but there is remnants of the basement or root cellar a couple fruit trees and walnut trees growing in the yard.
Keep looking rebel let me know everything you find on the Parker and Overstreet Families?
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Post by Rebel KGC on May 20, 2007 17:03:29 GMT -5
Yo! Rebel here: ;D beale, will do... ALSO, there is a Read Creek in Upper Goose Creek Valley, and a creek that flowed west... the "treasure" was supposedly buried there at one time, where the creeks "met" at a right angle... beale, you KNEW this...
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Post by beale on May 20, 2007 18:17:40 GMT -5
Rebel,
That came from my decipherment of the codes. All I had in the decoded message was "a creek that flowed to the --st. I don't know if it was EAST or WEST, both end with an "ST" That is exactly what I am trying to figure out. I am trying to find one of those other two letters? Talk to you later.
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Post by Rebel KGC on May 20, 2007 20:02:49 GMT -5
Yo! Rebel here: ;D Reviewing my copy of THE ROAD WEST in B. V.: L. & F. # 3... p. 5... '"Then it (Goose Creek) would meander southward, below the Beard survey, through the 720 acre tract which would be surveyed for FRANCIS READ in 1766. There it crossed the "LONG BRANCH" of Goose Creek. This creek would later be named READ CREEK for Francis Read." I will have to look at a map of OLD Bedford County, to get idea of whether it is EAST or WEST... my "sense" is that it flows WEST into Boblett Gap area... DUNNO...
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Post by beale on May 20, 2007 21:08:27 GMT -5
rebel,
I believe you are right about Read Creek. I know where the Read homested--------the US Goverment bulldozed all of it looking for the "KEY" to the cipher codes. They never found it.
But in the broken codes I had it said, "three hundred yards upstream to a creek that flows to the --st" It didn't say Read Creek. So it could be a creek on the east side flowing west or the west side flowing east? Don't know but I will continue working to find one of the other letters. Have a good night.
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Post by beale on May 21, 2007 5:08:06 GMT -5
rebel,
Let me know what you find, I may get to come up in a week or two?
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Post by Rebel KGC on May 21, 2007 6:47:15 GMT -5
Yo! Rebal here: ;D (That "High-Test" again... ); beale, sounds good... all we gotta do is find Read creek on OLD Bedford County map... find Read Creek, and go "upstream"... got a canoe?
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Post by Rebel KGC on May 21, 2007 9:18:34 GMT -5
Yo! Rebel here: MORE R & D ... and MORE "HIGH-Test" ;D... beale, looking at modern day map of Bedford County, I find in Upper Goose Creek Valley that Pike Road (named after Z. Pike???) is SOUTH of Walnut Grove Church Road; Pike Road goes into Bobbett Gap and Botetourt County/BRP... FED land!!! HA! In terms of Read Creek... it was known as such in 1766... it flows east to west... AND... I recken Beale would have known it by THAT name in 1819/1821... in 1822, P. Buford died... hmmmmmm... he had owned Fancy Farm prior to his death in 1822... hmmmmmm... (tugging at beard...) (SUNNY out...).
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Post by Rebel KGC on May 21, 2007 10:57:35 GMT -5
Yo! ;D HA! I have read stuff on the Overstreet families... not much, tho... LOTS of stuff on the Parker families... especially Lula Jeters Parker, who wrote a book on families of Bedford County... MOST libraries have a copy of THAT book... BEST place to find info on families of Bedford County is the Bedford City/County Museum on Main Street, next to the Court House... the museum used to be a MASONIC LODGE... LAWD GAWD A'MIGHTY !!!
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Post by beale on May 21, 2007 17:46:35 GMT -5
Yo! Rebel here: MORE R & D ... and MORE "HIGH-Test" ;D... beale, looking at modern day map of Bedford County, I find in Upper Goose Creek Valley that Pike Road (named after Z. Pike???) is SOUTH of Walnut Grove Church Road; Pike Road goes into Bobbett Gap and Botetourt County/BRP... FED land!!! HA! In terms of Read Creek... it was known as such in 1766... it flows east to west... AND... I recken Beale would have known it by THAT name in 1819/1821... in 1822, P. Buford died... hmmmmmm... he had owned Fancy Farm prior to his death in 1822... hmmmmmm... (tugging at beard...) (SUNNY out...). Rebel, I believe the road was called the "Pike" Road because of the Buchannon-Fincastle Pike not for Z. Pike. Also, I believe you meant Paschal's father, Henry Bufford died in 1822. Best to you though keep finding the information we are looking for? Talk to you later.
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Post by Rebel KGC on May 21, 2007 19:45:42 GMT -5
Yo! ;D beale, yer probably correct about da Pike thing... was hoping it was named for Albert Pike to "fit" da CSA Treasury "thing"... HA! Been mowing da grass, and wasn't clear-headed enough to think that it WAS the old "Turnpike"; also been organizing my office in the house here... found P. V.'s books on Beale Treasure, and... we are both wrong ... Henry, father of P. B. died in 1814; P. B. was 24... lived to 1874, dying at 84 (pg. 183 - 184); he DID own Fancy Farm... and his wife was Frances Otey Buford. Page 184 has the Harry Wright story... BTW, Lula Jeters Parker's book was OUR KIN... read it at yer local library...
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Post by beale on May 22, 2007 20:36:47 GMT -5
"Our Kin" was the name of the book I found the first associate of Thomas J. Beall that being Walter Otey. Excellent book. I need to go back and read all of that book. The Parker Family owned about all of Big Island. The Overstreets married into the Parker Family. The Parker's also owned a large tavern even larger than Bufford's. It was inherited by the Overstreet Family. The tavern as well as the whole town was destroyed by a forest fire in ? Don't know exactly when, but you won't find this in any history book. This is from personal experience and observations.
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Post by Rebel KGC on May 23, 2007 6:34:01 GMT -5
Yo! Rebel with... "HIGH-TEST" TIME !!! ;D Yep, beale , I remember reading about that... it was in the Big Island chapter in BEDFORD VILLAGES: LOST & FOUND... when I look at it again, I will make a "hard-copy" for you... it WAS a bigger tavern, and the WHOLE town was burned down... don't remember the date either, and didn't know about the Parker/Overstreet families then. Speaking of Big Island... "Bear" Tolley was given some land by a woman up there... it was in da mountains above Big Island; AND... No Business Mountain is across a few ridges from there, to the SOUTH-EAST... AND... Sharp Top of P. O. is easily seen from Big Island... musta been used by surveyers as a "landmark"...
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Post by beale on May 27, 2007 10:51:38 GMT -5
rebel,
Whatever it is you emailed me about having to do with the Parker and Overstreet Families, I never got. Did you send it as an attachment? There was nothing but a small message?
Talk to you later.
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Post by Rebel KGC on May 28, 2007 6:18:22 GMT -5
Yo! ;D beale, I sent you a "listing" of web-sites about the Parker & Overstreet Families of Bedford County, Va. You can do it by "googling" PARKER FAMILIES OF BEDFORD COUNTY, VIRGINIA & OVERSTREET FAMILIES OF BEDFORD COUNTY, VIRGINIA... there was a lot of historical documents available "on-line"... hh ENJOY!!! (SUNNY but CLOUDY & RAIN, later...)
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