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Post by TOMm on Feb 24, 2007 20:18:25 GMT -5
hello desifers (de-cyphers)
good news one of the items thats stated to be buried in code using my lock method is ;
A solid Gold Chariot that belonged to Peter the Great.
among many other things Buried in different places
I don't have the Key But Ive Got Two Locks un locked last month i had only one lock unlocked
now i now you gents cant or won't believe that, so it is show and tell time as soon as good warm weather gets steady any of you west vir Ginny gents in good hikin shape ??
i ve got it on paper for you to see and it will make you a believer ..
Mr. Le grand good luck and best wishes, you are headed in a good direction BUT you will Never get that item unless you get a act of the government to assist you
TOMm
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Post by TOMm on Mar 6, 2007 16:00:46 GMT -5
HELLO AGAIN GENTS
THE next item to be uncovered is the papers that was in the box and put away for A SAFE keeping and they only way i know to give those papers or letters credibility is show how they where known to be where they were left by Thomas Jefferson B
every body in Beale land is looking for a huge vault that may or may not be in a certain location in Bedford county VA
I have learned it easier/ better to find a lock first then one could know what kind of keys to look for.. its kinda like eating an elephant once you know where the tender meat is you begin to cut it up in that area and pre-pare that meat for the frying pan ,there is plenty for all to feast on,it just depends on what you would like for an evening meal
bon apatite
TOMm
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Post by TOMm on Mar 8, 2007 0:34:42 GMT -5
OK GENTS
ITS CRYING TIME
AFTER WORKING MOST OF THE DAY AND NIGHT DECYPHERING
THIS IS WHAT I GOT
and i(TOMm) will print it out EXACTLY SO HERE IT IS ................................................................................................................................................................................................................... SECOND CODE NOT TRUE ........................................................................................................ ................................................................................................... BUT THE OTHER CODES ARE TRUE
GOOD NIGHT
TOMm
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Post by TOMm on Mar 8, 2007 19:31:53 GMT -5
OK gents here your answer as to the question asked of me The DOI and inconjunction with the page that states that THE LION (lying) WAS AROUSED using the same arrangements this info was processed THAT (AN) morris was a pirate inthe company of LEFITTE and also that he was a pryo maniac theres more . part of the words are fonic (Phonetic) part are latin and part are french GENTS are there any french words in the pamplet ? There were about 200 copies of the DOI distributed and only about 65 Known to exist today WHERE is the very first one and where is the first liberty Beale (Bell) TJB was a real name,some one by that name was the bell ringerin normal prsonal valet to THOM JEFF and where are the first coins off the stamp/punch there are atleast 5 other books /documents /manuscripts to give a complete breaking of these other two codes but that dosent say that code two cant be rebroken givig its real meaning per haps the strings are used to replace and respell a phonic word Or french word to give an entire knew word/ meanig i remain aSEVER(cut) ASE>ACE >EVES >(aPlace)>REVES(a place) the dates are not real dates they are code numbers TOMm
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Post by kydave on Mar 10, 2007 17:35:39 GMT -5
Here's some more "poop" that Jefferson wrote to Robert Livingston! A favorable and a confidential opportunity by Mr. Dupont de Nemours, who is visiting gives me an opportunity of sending you a "cipher" to be used between us, which will give you some trouble to understand, but, once understood, is the easiest to use, the most indecipherable, and varied by a new key with the greatest facility of any one i have ever known. I am in hopes the explanation enclosed will be sufficient. Let our key of letters be [some figures which are illegible] and the key of lines be [figures illegible] and lest we should happen to lose our key or "be absent from it for a period of time", it is so formed as to be kept in the memory and put upon paper at pleasure; being produced by writing our "names and residences" at full length each of which containing 27 letters is divided into parts of 9 letters each; and each of the 9 letters is then numbered according to the place it would hold if the 9 were arranged alphabetically. The numbers over the letters being then arranged as the letters to which they belong stand in our names, we can always construct our key!
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Post by kydave on Mar 10, 2007 23:49:36 GMT -5
Well i used to be a Lifeguard and have a Fisher CZ-20 water detector. Does that qualify me? How deep and how cold is the water? One of the stories i've read in the past said the treasure was found in a submerged vault and had to be drained to enter i believe.
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Post by TOMm on Mar 11, 2007 13:48:37 GMT -5
howdy you all I think you might have something about being under water the first liberty bell was put under water and since Lafitte's' name + Bonaparte (belonging jointly To parties) pirate parties, theIr names are positively mentioned in code one AND IT SEEMS TO BE AUTHENTIC SO FAR moriss as spelled in code ,was merchant pirate shipping tobacco the treasure used to be in France england and the USA the French part was found in 1892 the English part is still in ENG as far as i can tell no one has reported it found in england part of the treasure is at Monaco and part at Malta the Vermont part still remains the Virginia and the Penna part art still in tact some of these are large and some are only small mementos of times past in history of a new nation and part in Canada Thomas Jefferson is the Author of these Letters that comissioned Shepard to publish them and give him(thom jeff) time to pass on , while code number two is not true i personalyy have found items mentioned in code 1 i have not found the key only 2 locks that help locate other ITEMS OF PIRACY USED THE MONIES AND PEOPLES INFLUNCE TO MOVE ABOUT AND PAY FOR THE NEW EXPIERMENT I HAVE A PRIBLE WITH BIRTH DATE OF LAFITTE AND THE DATE OF PURCHACE OF louisianna TERRITORY I HAVE INFO THAT CONTERDICS THOSE DATES BUT WHAT DO WE KNOW ABOUT TRUE HISTORY TIME WILL TELL TWODAYS AGO I FOUND A 12 SIDED ITEM THAT IS SMALL ENOUGH TO BE HELD IN A MANS HAND WHILE CLOSED IT HAS 12 POINTS ON IT AND IF IT IS PUT ON THE LETTERS AND OR THE CODES IT GIVES OTHER LETTERS AND OR NUMBERS WHILE IT IS MADE OF STONE IT LOOKS LIKE TIGER EYE STONE JUST BUY NUMBERING THE SIDES AND ROLLING IT ACROSS THE NUMBERS AND OR LETTERS IT GIVES OTHE INFO COULD THIS TIGER EYE (i have) STONE ONE TOP OF PAPER , COULD IT BE LOCK NUMBER 3 ? 3D-CODES TIGER 12 SIDED STONESOUNDS LKE TIME FOR ANOTHER MOVIE A ROLLING STONE GATHERS NO MOSS TOMm
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Post by TOMm on Mar 13, 2007 18:50:43 GMT -5
OK Gang . my new discovery as of last knight.
get out the excel .
get a grid 99 letters wide by 9 letters deep .
use a copy of the us constitution .
scroll over to the right to cell number 71 .
get your phonetical minds warmed up at cell 71.
the first phonic part word to sound out is *SI* as in CYPHER .
the next phonic word is *FOR* as in 4 .
next word is *TO * as in TWO or 2 .
next part word is *FIC * as in FICK .
next part of word is *TION AL * as in FICTIONAL.
the statement is *cypher two is fictional * .
BUT HEY GANG look real close again it says .
THOS BEAL sifor to is fic tion al .
the name BEAL is in that area twice .
the words and individual letters snake in and out of them self.
More than one way to skin a cat
TOMm
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Post by kydave on Mar 15, 2007 20:40:14 GMT -5
My thoughts on the code numbers are still that they were NOT chosen at random. What this will eventually lead to i have no clue!
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Post by TOMm on Mar 16, 2007 20:25:29 GMT -5
Hello KYDAVE
just a thought about the letters above .
try the line method on them i think you will find it of interest.
1207
TOMm
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Post by TOMm on Mar 19, 2007 19:43:58 GMT -5
GOOD EVEVENING Ladies and GENTLEMEN
I HAVE MADE A SOME MORE GREAT DISCOVERIES
TONIGHT
WOULD ANY ONE LIKE TO KNOW OR FREELY SEE THEM
AT NO COST common sense is not common TOMm
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Post by Rebel KGC on Mar 19, 2007 20:54:46 GMT -5
Yo! Rebel here: ;D Yep TOMm, you can share it all here... FREE, AT NO COST ! THANKS, for letting us know, what ya got...
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Post by TOMm on Mar 19, 2007 21:28:27 GMT -5
gOOD EVEVENIN AGAIN
HERES WHAT IVE GOT AND ITS CORRECT
sHAKESPEARE TO BE OR NOT TO BE
pOE pIT AND THE PENDULUM
pART TEN REPEATS ITS SELF
DECODER IS IVORY AND IS BURIED IN CEMENT
HEY GANG REMEMBER WITH THE HELP OF THE INDIANS WELL I HAVE GOT HIS NAME AND HE WAS NOT IN BELOW THE MASON DIXON LINE
pawnee 12 POINTS TO PONDER
TOMm
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Post by TOMm on Mar 20, 2007 19:15:41 GMT -5
HAPPY SPRING AND ITS TIME TO DIG IN AND UP THIS THING.
I WAS DOING SOME RESEARCH ON R. MOORIS MORRIS ECT
AND FOUD OUT HE and GOV MORRIS WERE INTERPETERS FOR THE USA INTERPETING SEVERAL INDIAN LANGUAGES
LET ME ASK. ;
WHAT WOULD BEAL BE DOING WITH THIS INDIAN CHIEF OF THE PAWNEE TIBE (VERY PROVABLE )
AND WHAT IS THE CONNECTION OF JOHN OBEALE WITH CHIEF CORNPLANTER
AND WHY WOULD TOMMY JEFERSON MAKE A FIC TION AL NUMBER TWO CODE I THINK THERE IS ANSWERS OUT THER
ALL OF THES PEOPLE HAVE DIRECT CONNECTION TO THE BEALE TREASURE
AND IF IT IS FICTIONAL? WHY CHOOSE BEDFORD AND BUFORDS
AND WHY ONLY ALLOW 3I OR 34 MEN IN THE PARTY
COULD IT BE THAT THE HOTEL AND PIRATE SHIP ONLY SUPPORTED ROOM FOR THE SERVANTS AND THE ROUGE MEN
AND SINCE THE DOI IS AND THE CONSTITUTION HAS BEEN SHOWN TO HAVE SOME CONNECTION DID TOMMY J TAKE PART IN THE PRIVATEERING TAKING PLACE MAY TO GET HIM OUT OF DEBT??
LETS TAKE A LOOK DEEPER THERES THE
1 DOI 2 .US CONSTN
3. POE
4. SHAKES SPEAR
5 . THE BIBLE IS MENTIONED IN PAMPHLET
6. LETS NOT FORGET SHERMAN AND THE OTHER JAMES WARD NOT SPOKEN OF TILL NOW !!AND THE OTHER SHERMAN IN DOI
7. THE BEAL LETTERS
8. THE MORRIS STORY
9. THE 3 D THING
10 . THE POUNDS OF GOLD (english pound??)
11. THE SHIPPING OF MORRIS
THE DEBT OF MORRIS .12 THE VAULT (WEBSTER CALLS IT AN arch )
one of jeffersons SLAVES WAS EXPERT IN VAULT MAKING MAINLY FOR SUPPORT UNDER THE MANSION
13 TIME SPANS 1776 1817 1819 1822 1832 1885 WAS THE SECT WAS STILL ACTIVE
14. MEXICAN TOWN WAS IT NEW YORK, MARYLAND,TEXAS NOTICE ALL OF THEM HAVE WATER TO THE SEA
15. IS THE TREASURE ONLY ONE VAULT OR IS IT MANY REWARDS OF SMALLER HISTORY TOKENS IS IT THE FIRST COINS OF THE UNITED STAES ALONG WITHE THE DYES AND MOLDS OR IS IT THE ORIGINAL BEAL LETTERS. WAS THE DIAMONDS WE FOUND PART OF IT?? WERE THEY THE JEWELS TO SAVE WEIGHT ( EIGHT 8 ATE). 16. DOSE IT HAVE MORE THAN ONE KEY AND OR LOCK ? .
17 . DOSE A BEALE TREASURE EXIST IN BEDFORD COUNTY VIRGINIA??
18 CAN ANY OF IT BE PROVEN AND THE FACTS SHOWN. IF REQUIRED OR ASKED ?
WHERE THERE IS SMOKE THERE IS FIRE
TOMm
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Post by TOMm on Mar 20, 2007 20:35:28 GMT -5
HELLO AGAIN
jUST TEN MINUTES AGO I FOUND OUT THE KEY IS IN A RATTLE SNAKE CAVE
THATS THE DANGER REMEMBER THE DANGER BEALE SAID ABOUT
NOW WHY IS IT PROTECTED BY SNAKES ??
AND ONE OF THE LADIES WAS A REDSKIN OF HIGH POSITION
AND BEAL HAD A SECOND NAME HE USED
DOSE THAT MEANS HE GETS TWO SHARE OF TREASURE
IF THE KEY IS PROTECTED THEN, THERES MORE TO THIS BEAL
TREASURE THEN WE THINK .??
WE DONT KNOW...WHAT... WE DONT KNOW
TOMm
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