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Post by FunkiMunki on Mar 30, 2004 11:05:30 GMT -5
So does this site bealesolved.com/ officially mark the ending of the Beale Legacy? -Jon (ps I am new here) obviously! Glad to be! I think I'll fit right in.
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Post by David on Mar 30, 2004 11:18:03 GMT -5
The site only raises questions, it provides no answers. How was the code deciphered....show me the method by which it was done and by which the results can be duplicated and thereby verified.
Anyone can dig a hole and take a picture, anyone can put coherent words above numbers and say its a solution and make it say what ever you want it to say.
So I say NAY!........the mystery has not be solved.
DM
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Post by FunkiMunki on Mar 30, 2004 11:33:57 GMT -5
So you think that the treasure is still there!? I mean i was bummed when I saw that picture b/c It did i fact look legit, but now that I think of it anything can be made to look legit. Can you describe the area where people have looked?
The other thing I thought, how was it possibly poissible to sneak off with Tons of Gold and Silver without one person knowing about it!?
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Post by Steven on Mar 31, 2004 9:19:15 GMT -5
Very true David, anyone could do as you've said and fabricate such claims. In a free society that's something one should always be aware of..... but at the same time one should not discount what may hold the truth. You will find you have the proper name for it when your ship comes in .
Steven
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Post by David Mason on Apr 1, 2004 11:43:10 GMT -5
Hi Ho Steven, I suppose the bold type means I am getting yelled at, but I do stand by what I post. and in any case always good to hear from you. I don't discount anything unless there are other factors involved and other evidence that indicates something else. Everything uncovered thus far still cries The Beale Papers are only a story, containing a cryptographic puzzle and is therefore only a game. To believe there is a treasure or in your case ever was a treasure, you must believe in the writings in the Beale papers describing its origin. History does not validate it. You can claim its from another source and the Beale story is only a cover but there is no evidence to point to that either. No Jean Lafitte, no confederate gold, no Capt. Kidd and so forth.....nothing in the Beale Papers alludes to that being the case. Nothing in the codes having purportedly been solved has been claimed to point in that direction. All evidence seems to indicate, the Beale story is only a story based upon true historical events of adventurers on the Santa Fe Trail. Names were changed to fit the story plot by the author. I spent 28 years in the Navy, my ship has already came in (numerous times) and the name of the story is "The Tall Tale Letters" based on events of William Becknell, William Storrs and Thomas Hart Benton. And as you said, one should not discount what may hold the truth. I took a Beale Pill, have a great day....... ;D David Mason
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Post by Rockhound on Apr 1, 2004 14:50:30 GMT -5
My own take on the story is that while I believe the ciphers are real (ie I believe there is an actual message contained within) I don't really believe that there is any treasure to be found. To call the entire story a hoax is too strong because the mystery is far too compelling to dismiss out of hand. If there is a treasure (whether it has been found or not) then I'd be very surprised but delighted at the same time. My personal belief notwithstanding, it is a mystery worth spending a great deal of time over even if the end result is proof that no treasure ever existed. It's like my old Biology teacher used to say... "There's no such thing as a failed experiment, whatever the outcome we learn something from it." I am not saying that those who claim, or indeed believe, that they have solved the enigma are wrong (or even worse that they lie), I'm just saying that I personally don't think that the original story was 100% genuine. Who do I believe came closest or could even be correct? I'm glad you asked! I find Steven's ( bealesolved.tripod.com/ ) the most compelling simply because he includes the deciphered text for all to see on his website. While I remain unconvinced as to the existence/nonexistence of the treasure, this gives me most pause for thought. Wideopenmindedly, Rockster.
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Post by TOM on Apr 3, 2004 0:00:33 GMT -5
HI rock hound
Here is an idea but not to give the the whole secret away The instructions are in the letters such as A subtraction instruction > ever since leaving A Multiplying Instruction Comfortable Quarters AN addition instruction Journeying to this place A division instructiion June 1832/ BY MEANS of this A subtraction instuction first five 500 miles An Subtraction instruction Withdrawing when There are 26 vaults in a total Vaults T J B have not been touched but a b c has been looted Vault N is the largest We wiil play it to the e N d some day one one you young bucks is going to get to see it im just to old to climb TOM
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Post by Steven on Apr 3, 2004 10:18:10 GMT -5
Hello David, No I wasn't yelling at you if thats what you thought, I knew about your Naval Service and that's why I wrote what I did at the end. I toured the Navy 6 years myself and served aboard the Sirius (6th Fleet) enjoying nearly all my service with fond and exciting memories, smooth sailing for the most part......... till women started filling the billets, that sure did stir things up a bit. "Oh the stories I could tell about that deployment!" Did you manage to evade those new manuevers before you retired? Respectfully, Steven
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Post by David Mason on Apr 4, 2004 2:14:56 GMT -5
Hi Ho Steven,
Never did have to contend with women about any ship I was attached to, they had them on tenders and such but I sailed on greyhounds, DDs, FF, DLG, DDG, CG, and a couple of Carriers before the advancement of womens rights to be on them.
TOM has a post above that some should consider, his idea about instructions is valid, however the part about vaults is a bit in a grey area. The entire pamphlet contents are composed with instructions embedded and not just the TJB letters. I have in the past posted some for instances concerning this but these posts failed to generate any interest indicated by lack of responses either yea or nay so am saving all revelations for a future writing to be published in a limited edition. What will be will be...Later.............................David
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Post by panda on Aug 5, 2004 19:04:28 GMT -5
hi- this is my first post- and hopefully the first of many. I live near the town of Montvale where this treasure is said to be buried. I find the contents of the beale solved website to sound very fake. If i dress up in a big hairy costume and say im Sasquatch, would u guys believe me? NO. Also this is the most compelling treasure mystery of our time. If someone found the site, it WOULD be in the news. at least my local news or papers. But no. someone with a lot of spare time dug a hole in their backyard and said they found money.
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Post by panda on Aug 5, 2004 19:12:02 GMT -5
correction to last sentence in my previous post- they didnt claim to find money just the site- sorry
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Post by TOMm on Aug 7, 2004 19:00:56 GMT -5
DEAR Sir
i hope that you can get overt to The town/village of FIDDLE part of the cyphers is there
If you want proof before you decide to go Get yourself a opaque projector use code number (2) you will see the KEY in the Hand of The 3D illusion along with a fiddle i think the key (bottle is BURIED there
TO Bring To Light ALL Thats Dark In Them TOM
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Post by TOMm on Aug 7, 2004 19:06:40 GMT -5
Post Script (P.S) I meant to tell you to use the Liabrary of Roanoke Version only as far as 3 D (three Deminsion of Sight) pattern of numbers are used TOM
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Post by Rebel KGC on Jan 21, 2005 15:30:17 GMT -5
Yo! Rebel here: LGA! It looks good... I think it is ONE cache of many in da mountains... it was empty... on Porter Mountain... yeah, I know da mountain, NOT da site; many "vaults" will be empty... BUT the Super-Cache/Vault is still somewhere in dose hills... and so 1/2005... the mystery... da super-cache... lives on.... ;D Long live da KGC!
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Post by Rebel KGC on Aug 28, 2008 8:50:34 GMT -5
8/28/08. STILL DOES...
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