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Post by David Mason on Jun 11, 2004 10:30:40 GMT -5
Don't cha just love that Wild Card ;D Elwood, James Russel Lowell was a friend to EAP, Lowell owned a publishing company and sold it to one of the men on your list of possible writers of the Beale Story. It may be they found a manuscript in the files of Lowells publishing company created by EAP and decided to rework it and publish it.....your revelations about JRL being connected to the Beale mystery only confirms a possible Poe connection. A visit to Ron Gervais' website and reading all the information there will be well worth the effort. Some interesting revelations are there. I for one posted some information derived from the mistakes generated in code number two. A couple of cipher cylinders. Another genteman posted about a connection between the deaths of the DOI signers and the dates in the Beale Papers. His posting was interesting to say the least since Charlie and I went down that avenue and discovered the key name is Charles Carroll of Carrollton. To arrive at this name and the reasons for it is another posting. It has nothing to do with Dante. A "sharpie" adapt at reading will be able to find why Charles Carroll of Carrollton is a figure of interest. But I will provide a few hints.....His name and residence has 26 characters, he was the last DOI signer to die. His death was in 1832, his residence is given opposite to him, " ....not to be numbered among the living..." has something to do with it. Its all in Chapter 3 of our book in progress " On The Trail of The Tall Tale Letters" ( To Be distributed freely by email when we are ready) .... I know.... everyone is writing a book, same old sh*t just rehashed in a different way..."Oh! Ye of little faith..." " The moon never beams without bringing me dreams..." about $13,000 Sorry Steven (SMD3) you can't add me to your list of those who are claiming a solution this year. David & Charlie
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Post by Wild Card on Jun 11, 2004 17:46:43 GMT -5
Of course I 'disagree' with much of your posting, but that is what a forum is for! The 'looking at'... the dissemination of... the evaluation... of information that is provided. "I THANK" both you and Charlie for "having the balls" to "step up to the plate" and at least say something constructive, which is more than I can say of others. I just get so tired of the 'mealy-mouths' that seem to abound here. IF there were more guys on this forum like the two of you... this thing would have been settled years ago. Again... "MY THANKS" to both of you guys!!!
Wild Card
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Post by smd173 on Jun 11, 2004 21:23:20 GMT -5
Sorry Steven (SMD3) you can't add me to your list of those who are claiming a solution this year. You were already counted years ago. Check the webpage.
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Post by David Mason on Jun 14, 2004 9:55:27 GMT -5
Agast! the good Democrats and history revisionist have struck again....
SMD173 implies at some time David Mason claimed a solution to the Beale puzzle....and he says check the website...hummmmm.....so I did....I assumed he meant his website....can't find any information there that would indicate the claim of a solution by me, David Mason...Can't find anything posted on that website that would indicate the site owner has or ever had an original or independent thought on the Beale subject either. However the site is useful in a limited way to serious investigators as it does provide links and other information such as a copy of the Hart Papers but provides nothing beyond this to indicate the site owner has investigated anything on his own...... beyond the thoughts provided by others, nothing original comes from him. I have noticed when SMD173 makes a post it is almost always adversarial to a person who has made a post with some information relating to the Beale mystery they wish to share. Perhaps this is his method to antagonize and spur others to reveal more information about what they are doing so he can just absorb it without any real effort He never makes a comment or posts any information which he personally may have developed so others may comment about his investigations....in-fact he has posted he hasn't looked into the mystery for quite a while....yet he is smug and self serving in his opinions of others and the thoughts they may share on these forums. Case in-point a recent post by Wildcard sharing some of his findings.....SMD173's response "YAWN", I say to SMD173 "Did you investigate what he said?...Did you duplicate the method in which he said he found information?....Do you even understand anything about it? ".......I personally may disagree with EC about his discoverys and what they lead to but at least he is sharing information that "HE" has discovered and feels may help others in their search for a solution. What have you contributed to our efforts...."YAWN"...NADA, NYET, Nothing I can find...........
Disgustedly yours.....................David Mason
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Post by smd173 on Jun 14, 2004 20:48:11 GMT -5
I have to say I'm rather surprised by your post David. You've known for years that you and Charlie have appeared on the POSSIBLE solutions page on my website. If you and Charlie don't want to be listed, let me know, I will remove you. To say that nothing original comes from me on my site is just ludicrous. I have chosen not to waste people's time with paths of investigation that did not pan out for me. Believe me, I could very easily pretty up some of my work like EC did, insult people, tell them that it's my way or the highway, and totally send them down the wrong path. Oh but wait, that's rather adversarial and smug of me. Damn, my MO has surfaced again. And yes, I did investigate EC's methods. Both before and now. And both times I've concluded that there is no merit in them. This was done by using accepted methods in cryptology that I learned while doing my overall investigation of the Beale Ciphers. So I'm sorry I haven't "contributed to your efforts", in the way you feel I should. I'm sorry I don't live up to your high standards. And I'm sorry that I don't just fall in line and believe everything that I read because I'm told to believe it. Most of all, I'm sorry to see that you (someone who I respected) made a fool of yourself in public.
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Post by Steven on Jun 15, 2004 1:07:45 GMT -5
Hello SMD,
I have some material I can share with you if your bored and don't mind changing lanes.
Steven
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Post by David Mason on Jun 15, 2004 11:04:05 GMT -5
Steven D.,
Being the fool in public is nothing new, I probably wore the hat more than once and may do so again but what the Hay! Sh*t happens when you're having fun....
But I stand by my remarks.....ludicrous as it may be to you
You will find in none of my posts, in none of my emails and in none of my writings made public where at any time I have claimed to have a solution, have claimed personal knowledge of a solution or even intimated I might be able to provide a solution....
..... And... "I"... find it personally offensive that you should declare to the world that I have done so.........
I have often said I do not offer a solution, only information that might help someone find a solution.
Respect is a two way street... Sometimes however Public Works puts up signs that block the way.
Just what is "Accepted methods of cryptology..?" If they don't appear to work, why continue using that method? To paraphrase Star Trek.....Why not boldly go where no man has gone before, Seek out new life, new ideas.
You have chosen not to waste peoples time with avenues of investigation that did not pan out for you...this is all well and good, so lets let them find these avenues that did not work out for you and let them stumble blindly on down these paths and really waste their time....some how this does not compute....why don't we instead put something out that did work.
Here is an example......In a post above this, I mentioned I had developed a cipher wheel from the mistakes generated in the decipherment of code number two, I also mentioned it was available at Ron Gervais' website. The method by which this cipher wheel was generated is explained...with some effort you can duplicate my actions. This may or may not help find a solution to the Beale Ciphers, but it is a legitimate discovery that needs farther investigation...I also discovered that Charles Carroll of Carrollton may possibly be the key DOI name needed to make the wheel work....I gave that name out in the above post...Over the years I have put out other snibbets of information that worked and some that did not pan out but looked good in the beginning. The point being.....It was information shared.....good or bad. Possibly it helped someone or possibly not. About the best feed back I ever got was 'Thanks for the Information'. Altho a couple a times after sharing info with an individual, a year passed when he declared to the world........Look what I discovered.........which really did not bother me all that much since it validated my original finding and the validation was the whole reason for sharing to begin with.
So ludicrous as it may seem to you..........I stand by the remarks I made........."YAWN"
Just call me Rodney Dangerfield, "I just can't get no respect."
Ludicrously yours.................David Mason
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Post by Rebel KGC on Jan 21, 2005 18:43:41 GMT -5
Yo Momma! Rebel here: LGA! It is 1/2005... where r we on this stuff? Long live da KGC!
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Post by Rebel KGC on Apr 25, 2005 15:09:58 GMT -5
Yo! Rebel here: (wiping smudges off sun-glasses... eating "fish & more"). 4/25/05... what say ye, now? (Sunny)
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Post by Rebel KGC on Jul 31, 2012 16:33:11 GMT -5
7/2012...
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