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Post by legrand on Oct 12, 2007 12:49:26 GMT -5
Splendor am IPalindromes"Go hang a salami; I'm a lasagna hog" www.brownielocks.com/palindromes.htmlPoe was interested intensely in the reverse, hence the reverse plaintext "ERE FEN DUE RED KNEE". Poe toyed with palindromes in a puzzle of his in 1827; I have not seen this puzzle. There's an article in the Oxford Journals that I could not access (if anyone can, please post here or link page 238/9, if possible): nq.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/reprint/191/11/238Legrand
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Post by legrand on Oct 13, 2007 12:53:48 GMT -5
Apparently, checkmate.
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Post by kydave on Oct 14, 2007 8:57:07 GMT -5
I would think any idea concerning a puzzle is on the right track.
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Post by TOMm on Oct 14, 2007 16:25:44 GMT -5
HI GENTS
Here is my idea of how this game may work
if you have the proper DOI and you have the numbers of the code that gives you gibberish until that gibberish takes a puzzle pieces (receipt's in box) shape cut out and place in between or over etc, there by giving a new word the trick is how to get the proper up down and over to cut (SEVER you now have new words and shapes. (WITH TH'S DESIGN) from gibberish nothing letters)
TOMm
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Post by charlie mason on Oct 17, 2007 15:11:15 GMT -5
Legrand,
The reason you haven't been able to find that Poe puzzle of 1827,is probably because it doesn't exist. Poe was a first year student at the University of Va at that time. I dont think he was all that versed in cryptography..You dont find him doing much of that kind of writing until after he attended West Point Military Academy.
bt clodhopper
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Post by WhoKnows on Nov 21, 2007 15:01:33 GMT -5
I've been looking at these ciphers as well as other ones for years now, and the real b**ch about these is that there are a million ways to solve these things. Each solution looks as valid as the next one. The Beale ciphers are very similar to a one time pad encryption - as you know these are impossible to solve without the original key. I don't think the Beale ciphers are a one time pad because of the patterns that have been found during cryptanalysis. Let's assume for a moment that the treasure exists - One problem I have with all the "solutions" found is the vagueness of the directions. For example, one post in this forum talks about going 22 miles north before finding a direction change marker. 22 miles north? That's really damn vague. This is 1822. There's no GPS to get you within 3 ft of your target. Has anyone checked the area for "unique" or conspicuous landforms such as an isolated hill, a bend in a river, or an isolated valley, etc. I guess it helps if you put yourself inside Beale's mind and try to think about what he would do. That's just my two bits.
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Post by TOMm on Nov 21, 2007 20:53:57 GMT -5
I have woked long and hard with these codes and i have found the land marks and one of them is in north carolina.
i also have reason to believe that these codes and some of the pamphlet was commissioned by jefferson to be published the agent was albert gallatin.
the part about the seer is or should be included in breaking of these codes because that was commisioned with the pamphlet also
as to how and why HEART(game) had them is not known yet but the land where one of the treasures is has the name related to heart attached to it the only thing i found there was the directions to a cave that i did not find and a stone map withe words or numbers 0f $ 228,000 ,000 but and old timer told me the cave i was looking for wasfilled up with garbage and a friend found a n ingot abot three pounds in the same area, also an anchor in a small no where cave, and about amile further i found a union jack carver in a small indentation of a boulder,
THE CON has been my best source of info
TOMm
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Post by beale on Nov 23, 2007 19:20:21 GMT -5
I've been looking at these ciphers as well as other ones for years now, and the real b**ch about these is that there are a million ways to solve these things. Each solution looks as valid as the next one. The Beale ciphers are very similar to a one time pad encryption - as you know these are impossible to solve without the original key. I don't think the Beale ciphers are a one time pad because of the patterns that have been found during cryptanalysis. Let's assume for a moment that the treasure exists - One problem I have with all the "solutions" found is the vagueness of the directions. For example, one post in this forum talks about going 22 miles north before finding a direction change marker. 22 miles north? That's really damn vague. This is 1822. There's no GPS to get you within 3 ft of your target. Has anyone checked the area for "unique" or conspicuous landforms such as an isolated hill, a bend in a river, or an isolated valley, etc. I guess it helps if you put yourself inside Beale's mind and try to think about what he would do. That's just my two bits. You are closer than you know, "WhoKnows" I don't do much of this out of the box thinking as most do, I try to stay strickly by the story that was given and research on that part of the story. Some of these others come up with, I don't know about. You can think or say just about anything about anything and you will think it is correct. But, unless you take the story as given, I believe you will be mostly wasting your time. Even with the story as is, we may be wasting our time also. I do know the story is true. I do know there is a treasure to be found. I do know that it is not a game or a puzzle to be broken. I have everything I need to convince me. I don't post much lately because I have enough to find the vault and recover the treasure and that is what I have been doing since the writing of my book, "Lost Diary of Thomas J. Beall" for more information go to www.hunteroflosttreasures.comIf an individual has the diary of Thomas J. Beall, they may have other items of interest of TJB's also and that I have but I will not reveal what I have?
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Post by Rebel KGC on Nov 23, 2007 21:45:29 GMT -5
Yo! Rebel here: ;D Whoknows & beale... it does seems interesting & I had read the "solution" on another website; 1822 was "clue" to go 18 miles NORTHWEST of Lynchburg, Va., then another 22 miles, or something like that; I have been to THE FORK OF THE BUFFALO on Rt. 60, WEST of Amherst, Va. (one county NORTH of Lynchburg, across the James River...); I have seen the "valley", etc., and it DOES look like "Indian Mounds", etc. Buffalo River is at the BASE of Tobacco Row Mountain, home of the Monacan "Indians" Nation/settlement in Amherst County, Va. I hiked the mountains... wife & I lived TWO years "up in those hills" in an "A-Frame", camping out next to the "man-made" pond; VERY, VERY scary & HAUNTED place... I loved it, but "wifie" wanted to return to the "FLAT-LANDS", so we moved to Bedford County, where I researched/talked to the pp living in the "areas of interest" (including... P. V.). ;D Fork of the Buffalo River is MORE like a creek, now-a-days, and the George Washington National Forest DOES border the "Fork of the Buffalo". The Thomas Jefferson National Forest, along the Blue Ridge Parkway DOES "begin" across Rt. 60 (I think...), going SOUTH, toward Roanoke, Va. In reviewing an OLD map... it appears that Thom. Jefferson ended up on Rt. 811 (Thom. Jefferson Highway), going to his "retreat" POPULAR FOREST. OR... he MAY have came across the James River at Lynch's Ferry, leading up to WESTERN HOTEL on 5th Street, then taking Old Forest Road (Rt. 211) WEST, then Thom. Jefferson Highway (Rt. 811) SOUTH to POPULAR FOREST. So, I guess, it is POSSIBLE that Fork of the Buffalo IS 18 miles NORTHWEST of Lynchburg, Va. I may go up to the GWNF at the "Fork", in the Spring, & look for the OWL... DUNNO.
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