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Post by TOMm on Mar 28, 2006 21:24:18 GMT -5
hello the printed original version of numbers is started with an indentation and thats a blank number and then 71 is printed IT was hand printed as so called Beale had made K ridge is in *old Virginia* now West Virginia and i just stated that 1882 was a factor date not the death year date of the womanizer P BJ I'm not trying to discredit you YOU deserve a big Hurha for your effort... what i have to show cannot be forge faked or imitated... (*BEAL*) ABE L is abe Lincoln is only a name to throw off the finding of the treasure and the dates were changed for that purpose And for family honor and I'm not saying that Abe had the SY4s written the place of deposit is the post office but not a real post office and its near two creeks very near, it was used for the Boyd gang to hide messages to be picked up by the gang of counterfeiters making phony Yankee money to inflate the market And the CSA troops going in from the forest into nearby towns was dressed in Blue For a couple of years st atoned to guard the treasure in Yankee territory mainly from the phony paper money *IN EXCHANGE*< in pamphlet for good Yankee Silver and Gold the money was recalled at one time read google about Ben Boyd i have reason to believe that IRON BOX had somebody's head in it and Boss T and his gang were also are implemented YES Albert you may have broken the Sy4s but if you didn't use the I have deposited in the county of bed ford <(Buchanan) County then theres more dsy4n 2 Go THAT first line tells locality in #2 also but not the exact place this statement dose YOU WILL and again in the other letter You Will and the second deposit is at*was our SOle object* (Sun) Object old king sol was a merry old soul and irespest your rights to disbelieve me and of course be skeptical if yo want to find bend Boyd go over to the other site i think is black and white find the word Box working off the the Letter *B*find the words box are and box authority done to find the engraved use the words* secured northerly gave preparing* and by the way Buford's still holds the secrets and HUNT was Lincoln relative as in grizzly bear and Savage is a mountain in Maryland Just some FYI and Old abe was well *preseved *<word in phamphlet but J B was still in the political field honest or not i dunno Until we meet again ToMm
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Post by kydave on Mar 29, 2006 9:09:16 GMT -5
Good Lord!!! or LGA!!!
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Post by Rebel KGC on Mar 29, 2006 9:47:21 GMT -5
Yo! Rebel here: ;D HA! HA! HA! KyDave... Doesn't suprise me that there r B.T.'s all over the place... West Virginia WAS part of Virginia pre-Civil War... AND... there are caches of weapons, GOLD, SILVER, and jewelry ALL over those hills. BEALE TREASURE ("words") may just be a code for BIG cache of stuff... OR... maybe the Beale family kins have caches ALL over western Virginia OR West Virginia in CAVES!!! I would also look into MINES... I remember on one web-site somewhere that Prez. Jeff Davis asked CSA War Dept. to do "survey" of caves in western part of Virginia and "brief" him on such... NO reason was given as to why he wanted to know... LGA!!!
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Post by TOMm on Mar 29, 2006 20:49:26 GMT -5
Hello once again and best wishes to everyone after many many years of hunting down Beale I am still at bewilderment as to why not many if any code breakers have not concentrated on morris pamphlet as a whole part of the cypher there are numerous clues and mis information ((par for governments and politions)) for the purpose of protecting the names of of the guilty . If one uses the basis of the Civil War time line and think morris was a dishonest man in volved in counterfeiting And aiding and abetting the enemy Chequered Event yes checkering lead plates**the Game**Lead minus*Cn =candel Place play are words *your Share*to use as partial words minus the letters* ce & ay* to use numbers equivalent replacement to make the word plates or Dies *LADies*minus the AL 112 BEN Boyd MASTER ENGRAVER *old and valued friend*<in pamphlet at the hotel THE GAME code name for SOL CHASE treasurer USA after Lincoln was shot most of his cabinet met together inside the treasury building the same day WHY oh WHY that building??? Buffalo was referring to Negro soldier maybe to carry out good bullion and carry in fake bullion For SOL chase new bank Thats my opinion Sol or Sal same person not every cabinet member was true to the union cause Who was in charge of the ink and printing press none other than Mr. chase(IN CASE OF)< theres that word *printing* again like *JOB PRESS* Fifty CENTs Silver money (2 QUARTERS) THE Pamphlet says 3 Quarters of a million is that 75 pennies of a dollar?covering the sheet where as quarters make bigger holes to see Thur giving different numbers to see *with this arrangement* *with this object in view**LUPE** * was our objective *in charge of the hole* Smoke hole Early in march with GENERAL EARLY YOU WILL *GEN EWELL *also has meaning of a place name EWE Sheep Female *Undertaking<pamphlet refers to *James arrnot * Lincolns undertaker *Stampeding refers stamping to plates and money checquering *Circle refers to * The Hub*saloon in mid west for gang to meet *Withdrawing* refers to Ward the ring of counterfeiters the description of Beale as to ruff dark skin sounds like a mummy to me but why and how did the papers stay intact (mostly)not lost and the box did remain lost The answer is because the box was buried with Abe Lincolns head in it and yes his body was not stolen ,but his *head*ing was and it got replaced with a life mask That was made before he died and every body thought that they were going to steal his corpse but they broke in on election night and replaced his real head with a counterfeit head with intent to bargain *its loss would be irreplaceable ADE minus the ((M)) The first deposit was *Made*Plus H *head* might READ it* unintelligible without the key *Great Western Was A Train The great Western Plains * Enterprise was a Ship commissioned to military service The enterprise we are in Now thats either a day dream or an out right lie or an illusion or wacky that made the head story up but in black and white its got to be one or the other truth or lies only time will tell but there is proof++++++++++++ just follow Lincolns train AND its not stone on top of stone but TONE((color contrast )) tone on top of tone (sound) *withdrawing<in pamphlet that drawing might still be at Buford's(theater) well preserved
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Post by TOMm on Mar 31, 2006 22:59:42 GMT -5
Part of the Aid (*not the Key*) but the aid gives a date of 1868 there is more than one aid but may be more than one key they are buried along with tbe Lincoln box
the aid i have is partly deteriorated it mentions the S Y 4 just like that s y 4 and its difficult to read because of the weather and age but it indicates other coin vaults how big i dint know but the area that my partner blew shut in about 1960 it had stacks of ingots i believe that the Beale treasure is partly Yankee and rebel bars since 1950 two trunk loads were brought out from the very same area i estimate to be well over 100 million dollars at todays price I don't have a clue what the Lincoln box is worth and I'm sort of Leary in trying to bring it up i haven't checked the laws on finding treasure and a mummied head of Lincoln
i know know that sounds wild and far fetched but i also can prove it I said all that to say this find the box and you will find confederate gold i believe theres another *metal 8ox and i don't know whats in it but there should be one in north Carolina and the aid not the key should be in or on buffors property Good hunting and best of Luck PS Jefferson Davis is indicated TOMm
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Post by TOMm on Apr 3, 2006 2:24:21 GMT -5
dear gentelmen and ladies of this board this will be my last post until i can make future arrangements to get some ohotos of vault number 2 i would like to add that there might be other government vaults in New YORK Vermont, VIRGINIA, and maybe NORTH Carolina this so called Beale treasure is at least one vault with civil war time line keep this thought in mind you will need the **AID** of the key in other words aid to and in connection of a key it the safety factor i have see such an aid i have not broken the codes but theres en ugh info with the aid OF a key and its the only thing Ive seen that has Beale's name on it that a person can hold in there hand the treasures are still buried and may remain that way cause uncle SAM wants them also and i am not going to work uncovering them just to have them confiscated for what ever reason IF there is any big time movie makers out there or big time treasure /code breakers interested just leave a message on this board how to contact you
and i promise you unless you use the 3 d system the codes will not be broken completely
its been fun and interesting posting on this board and i will repeat my self and tell you that the aid of a key not the key is still at Buford's i once offer to come to Buford to retrieve it but nobody took me serious enough to make those arrangements for permission to dig a two foot hole and Ivan say this if THE VIRGINIA vault or VAULTS are ever recovered it will be by accident if not by thinking outside the box thats the kind of thinking that put them there Do any of you rememberer there were supposed to be 2 other men with Beale according to ROB Morris who were these men and was there any others ? (Yes) NAMES BELOW Thomas Jefferson Davis BEAL ABE L Boyd Ben Max Mexico Maryland Printer Counterfeiter Ward Gen Ewell Gen MEAD made Gen Early The Laddies The money plates (dies) The Maid Bed chamber Sahara Morris R LEE ever since LE a ving as in Lee broken bones Mr Hunt Mr Bear Mr Savage The Indians Mr Dan Mr Long Mr House Mr UREY Mr And Mrs Place Mr Arrnot the undertaking of ABE Mr Worthy (slave) Miss June hooker Hotel (ladies) Mr Tobe Mr Hand General Mr Pyle Pile Mr Gold Mr Jewell Mr A Friend Mr Capitan USS Enterprise Mr Louis (slave) Mr Mail man stamp ede fony money delivered Mr Smith iron box maker Mr Hadin Mr Key Mr X Mr Man MR Lyon was arroused Mr Seth time expires clock Mr Esquire Recorder of Deeds Miss ave Ava Mr Pounds Mr Cook evening meal Mr Tracy (Slave) traci ng the rest <separation of punctilio Mr Checque tool and die maker Mr Large large accession Mr Hair jet black Mr Black Slave Mr Weather Slave Mr Worthy Slave could not read it Mr Read conductor of great western train (plains) Mr W Plains Carpenter of new York Mr INEx change Banker Mr NINE 9 School Master/farmer by railroad B and O robbers hideout
ADios amigos TOMm
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Post by Rebel KGC on Apr 3, 2006 9:20:52 GMT -5
Yo! Rebel here: LGA! Where IS Oliver Stone (Movie-maker)?!?
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Post by Kydave on Apr 3, 2006 16:13:51 GMT -5
Tomm, I believe Albert has offered to meet with you several times in the past and you never made any attempt to show him any proof of your post.
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Post by Rebel KGC on Apr 3, 2006 21:17:48 GMT -5
Yo! Rebel here: (STILL looking for Oliver Stone... ) ;D Well... the "Locus of Control" is FOUR MILES FROM BUFORD'S... hardly think that Kiser ridge in West Virginia qualifies... unless...
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Post by Rebel KGC on May 16, 2006 12:11:15 GMT -5
Yo! Rebel here: STILL doing RESEARCH, even tho it is sunny out... HA! Found some useful info that tjb/Beale alluded to in 3rd section of this thread... pg. 196 of BEDFORD VILLAGES: LOST and FOUND... "In 1948, a former Bedford citizen, Harry Wright, bought (The Piedmont Institute property) in memory of his mother, Betty Pannell Wright, and formed the Betty Pannell Wright Benevolent Association, Inc. The purpose was to maintain and operate a home for aged ladies of Bedford County. It is operated by the Trustees and known as 'Liberty Manor' - Home for the Aged... Today the former Piedmont Institute is still operated as a home for adults. The property was bought by Runk and Pratt... " STILL as such today in 2006. It is a BIG house on what looks like an Indian Mound... is that a clue? DUNNO...
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Post by Rebel KGC on May 21, 2006 20:12:28 GMT -5
Yo! Rebel here: LGA! Beale 'hacked" himself!!!
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Post by Lord Cipher on Jun 28, 2006 11:09:14 GMT -5
Maybe you should check out this website: www.angelfire.com/pro/bealeciphers/Read each and every article on this page. For those who are lazy and won't read, the long and short of it is this-> the Beale ciphers aren't even really a hoax. The entire story was created as a dime novel for one of many reasons. One possible reason was to help raise funds to repair the Virginian newspaper building which was damaged in a fire in 1883. I've studied the Beale Ciphers for about 20 years. In that time, DOZENS of people have claimed they solved the ciphers. If they had truly been solved, logically the discovery of the treasure should come next. Yet we are still missing VITAL PROOF! Pictures of the treasure!!! Here's one pathetic website that shows us the "vault" where the treasure is located -> bealesolved.tripod.com/. I see nothing but rocks. ANYONE can go into their backyard and take a picture of a bunch of stones. I believe the story presented at the first link above is the true story of the Beale treasure, unless someone wants to present some rock-hard evidence - like PICTURES of the actual treasure.
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Post by Rebel KGC on Jun 28, 2006 11:28:07 GMT -5
Yo! Rebel here: ;D L. C. welcome! I have also read Ron's stuff, and I like the chapter on the Confederate Treasure and FreeMasons... ... I hope to read Ron's stuff at the Roanoke, Va. Library in the future; hoax on no hoax, it ALL makes interesting reading...
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Post by Lord Cipher on Jun 28, 2006 14:11:49 GMT -5
For every website I visit that claims our Thomas Jefferson Beale existed, another one claims the opposite. I believe A Thomas Jefferson Beale existed, but is he THE Thomas Jefferson Beale in our story? Perhaps Ward or the true author of the story knew that a Thomas Jefferson Beale existed (through checking census records, etc.) and incorporated him into the story. Who can say? Speculation is futile. As for the lack of copies of the novel, I believe it simply didn't generate the interest that Ward hoped it would. After it was read, most people simply tossed it away, much like the latest issue of Newsweek. I'm sure some people actually tried to solve the ciphers, but after many failed attempts, people lost interest. I'm sure this story wasn't printed in every national newspaper, so it remained more or less a local story. Newspapers heralding the end of the Civil War or the completion of the Panama Canal were also printed. Why aren't more of these available? One hundred+ years ago, people simply failed to see the future significance of these events, so they readily discarded any newspapers or magazines they may have had. Everything here is logically presented but still speculation. The one issue that trumps everything is the fact that after almost 200 years, thousands of brains and billions of compute cycles later, these ciphers remain unsolved (1 and 3). This leads to one of two possible conclusions: 1) they are a hoax and have no solution or 2) Thomas Jefferson Beale, or whoever wrote the Beale Ciphers, is an absolute genius who was smarter than any human being for the last 100+ years or who was clever enough to stump even the most powerful modern supercomputers. I agree with the former.
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Post by kydave on Jun 29, 2006 17:12:02 GMT -5
Wow! Had to create a new account before i could post again! Anyway some logical thinking would be to get the map out and go out 4 miles with a circle around Bufords and walk that circle. Ha! You would have to walk right by the treasure. What would that take, a couple of days? You like to hike don't ya Reb?
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