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Post by beale on Nov 3, 2005 20:16:31 GMT -5
ALBERT, The last I heard Peter hasn't found the BEALE Treasure yet,so why is it importtant to have credit in a book that doesn't solve the mystery either. I know that some folks just can't seem to find any direction to this mystery except what they read in these forums,but, as for me, I for one, from my own examinations and research of the BEALE PAPERS,have found that the mystery is a lot deeper than you may think and will be relatively easily solved.It at times seems complicated but probably isn't.There is one thing that I do know though is that this mystery is not some cover-up to explain sudden wealth from some nefarious plan to steal the confederate treasury or sell spanish rifles or explain Jesse James missing loot. It is a game, A GAME WORTH THE CANDLE,PERHAPS,BUT STILL JUST A GAME!!!! SO WHY DO STILL WANT TO GO AND DIG UP HALF OF BEDFORD COUNTY AND SCREW UP THAT PRISTINE COUNTRY SIDE WITH A BUNCH OF MISSHAPEN HOLES? JUST CURIOUS ME BT CLODHOPPER Charlie, I just had to respond to this. Everyone knows that Peter Viemeister has not found the Beale Treasure. That is why you put a book out. You may not hunt for it, but you can give others useful information to help them to find the treasure. As for your, "The Game is Worth the Candle." It is not a game that is a quote from a book in the 1790's. 1796 to be exact. It most likely was a favorite reading book of Thomas J. Beale's. I did know the name of that book when I researched it a lot. I know it is in my research somewhere. This just adds more icing to the cake. It is from a book within twenty-three years of the making of the cypher codes. And was almost ninety years before the Job Print Pamphlet was published. So, it seems to make the story more believable. What do you think, Rebel. I hope to get up your way soon. I am still trying to recover two large treasures near where I live. I may find out if one of them is there tomorrow. See you soon, Rebel. We will find something yet. albert_hunter@yahoo.com
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Post by Rebel KGC on Nov 4, 2005 16:56:04 GMT -5
Yo! Rebel here: ;D Good, Beale... took pics of Beech Tree, today... will get em developed at Wal-Mart, tonight... all da "clues" are still there... may have to wait til Spring, 2006, to "make a move on it"... in terms of Job Print thingie... the fire was deliberately set by Reb spies/FreeMasons in @ 1885 to cover up clues for KGC; Beale and crew DID go west in 1820 (or thereabout)... later, THAT story (from history) was used as a "cover" by former Reb spies/Royal Arch FreeMason/KGC folks... "Santa Fe" 1885 was probably a "code" for gold mines in Roanoke Valley in those years... the clues are in 7th Degree FreeMasonry - ROYAL ARCH - Guards out side the door are known as SENTINELS... in that degree, they are looking for TREASURE! Etc. Etc. ALL of this is on-line... u just have to find it... Even Marshall Plantation is "part" of this... TURKEY FOOT ROAD.... TURKEY TOE ROAD... TURTLE HEAD ROCK... etc. etc. etc. Later...
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Post by beale on Nov 4, 2005 20:03:10 GMT -5
rebel,
You may be totally right. I have topo maps of the area around the Marshall Plantation. There is rumored to be over 5 million in gold bars stashed there by the KGC. They had 9 million in gold bars from the Erlanger Loan of 1861. The other 6 million was used to purchase battleships built by the French Government. There was also a large amount of gold bars and British Sterling from an October, 1864 loan by the British Government. It was in value 7,000,000. pounds. Does anyone know how much this was in dollars. I believe it was $4.78 per pound or there abouts. That would make this locan upwards of $30 million dollars. 18,000 pounds of the British Sterling was hidden near my home along with 5 tons of Mexican Silver dollars. But, anyway Rebel, the Marshall Plantation is a right interesting place and so is Bedford and the entire surrounding area, whether or not the Beale Treasure is or was there at all? Talk to you later.
A tidbit of information, Did you know that the Freemasons had something to do with the layout of the names of towns and landmarks. Where the light shines through Solomon's Temple is WBS. If you take the first part the W stands for Wildcat Knob on Porter's Mountain. In a straight line is B for Bufford's and still in a straight line the S is for Sharp Top Mountain. Thought you would like to know. If you tri-angulate and find an alternate and parallel straight line is where the Beale Treasure is buried. albert_hunter@yahoo.com
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Post by Rebel KGC on Nov 4, 2005 21:42:07 GMT -5
Yo! Rebel here: ;D Yep, Beale... THAT is the "Grid", I chatted about, with the Turtle Face rock and Turkey Foot on big rock... now, about Marshall Plantation... I remember being told years ago that "it" was buried in a dried well by @ 6 slaves (well was @ 25 ' deep), who were killed by white men and then thrown into the well... the white men then finished covering the well... "mounded" it... planted a tree as "marker" on the Plantation "grounds"... I have NO idea where it is exactly... nor do I know who owns the "property" now... I DO know that there is a FreeMasonic Lodge in Lynchburg, Va. called Marshall Lodge... connection? DUNNO... I am in Royal Arch of Hill City Lodge in Lynchburg... LGA!
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Post by beale on Nov 5, 2005 6:24:26 GMT -5
Rebel,
Yes I heard the same story also. I haven't been able to find anything on a Confederate General named Marshall. Do you know who he was?
There is a Marshall Plantation about six miles North of where I live. I was in a briar thicket with my metal detector near there. Two black men where digging a ditch with a backhoe. They uncovered a large pot of gold coins. I followered their car to the outskirts of Roanoke, Virginia. There I was stopped by County Mounty for speeding. They got away and I never found out who the lucky two men were.
I talked to another black man at Advance Auto Store. He lives near the Marshall Plantation. He told me of another large pot of gold being recovered near the same area. Do you suppose this could be the Marshall Plantation the story referred to? Seems like a lot of gold in that area. I was close but so far I haven't found a third pot.
There is rumor of a paymaster wagons being missing through this area. It was suppose to go to the Army of Southwest Virginia. It was suppose to pass through this area and cross the Blue Ridge towards Christiansburg. It never made it to the Blue Ridge. So the story goes. What do you think?
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Post by beale on Nov 5, 2005 6:28:02 GMT -5
This Marshall Plantation was named for a Confederate Officer. I think, he was the paymaster on that wagon train. Maybe, that is the reason it never got to the Blue Ridge. He stopped at his home. The others with him could have shared some of the treasure and he buried the rest. Or he could have buried it all. The war could have been over and he told the rest of the men to go back to their homes? I don't know for sure.
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Post by Rebel KGC on Nov 5, 2005 8:52:37 GMT -5
Yo! Rebel here: ;D Well Beale... I also do not recall a Rebel General Marshall... all I remember was that he was a VERY wealthy gentleman (may well be the PAYMASTER, u alluded to.. dunno)... I was a re-enactor (Rebel Scout) 1874 -76... we "fought" at New Market... Harper's Ferry... Gettysburg... many, many places... it was around the campfire(s) that the "legends" were told... mostly Civil War "Ghost Stories"... I remember one about the Rebs using box-cars, and passenger trains (with seats torn out) to put Treasury, Gold Coins, jewelry, weapons, etc. out of Richmond to escape Yanks coming up from Petersburg... going to mountain tunnels with both ends blown shut to keep trains "intact" for the "next war"... the bridges that the trains went over were blown up to keep Yanks from "catching up"... the river was an effective barrier... look at old Civil War maps and follow train tracks to river/mountains... if bridge is gone... probably on the other side of river will lead u to Mountain tunnel(s)... HH
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Post by Rebel KGC on Nov 5, 2005 8:58:03 GMT -5
Yo! Rebel here again... I goofed... make that 1974 -76 for re-enactments... I AM old BUT not THAT old... HA! HA! HA!
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Post by beale on Nov 5, 2005 12:43:10 GMT -5
Rebel,
I know where at least two of these tunnels are located. I have photographs of one of them. And, yes it is blown in on both ends. The track was took up and sold to the Confederate Government for $37,000 and change in 1863. The track and cross ties were used to reconstruct and repair the Danville-Midland Railroad. They had to use wagons from a depot to the tunnel. Hitler did similar in Poland during World War II. I would love to see what is in these tunnels but it will take hundreds of thousands of dollars to find out. See you soon. albert_hunter@yahoo.com
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Post by beale on Nov 5, 2005 12:44:45 GMT -5
Rebel and all posters"
I am giving up treasure hunting after 22 years. All my equipment and research is for sale, should anyone be interested.
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Post by Rebel KGC on Nov 6, 2005 9:10:51 GMT -5
Yo! Rebel here: ;D Even tho the legends were classified as Ghost Stories... ALL of the stories ended with... "and the spirits of the dead... have been checking on these TREASURES... even to this day..." SO! the legends are true... just get rid of the Ghosties part... "they" (ghosts) usually appear as spook lights... etc. etc. SO! Go treasure hunting at NIGHT... lose your fear of Ghosties... mark the spot... return during day to get Treasure up... Brown Mountain Lights in North Carolina... wonder what TREASURE... is up there? LGA! Beale, not coming up, now?
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Post by beale on Nov 10, 2005 19:13:16 GMT -5
rebel,
Ain't skeered of no ghost. Anyone that has Indian Blood, can recover treasure without the fear of ghost. And as for ghost, I ain't dead yet?
I haven't sold my equipment. I was trying to raise funds to recover the Confederate Treasury. Still my best means of doing that is to win the lottery or to find a treasure. I am still playing the lottery with hopes and dreams, I may as well continue treasure hunting.
If things don't work out tomorrow. By that I mean if we don't find a treasure tomorrow, I will be going to Bedford and Roanoke to talk with the landowners to see if they will let me dig up the Beale Treasure. It is high time it came out of the ground.
I still have plans of meeting with you Rebel, but my time is either too limited or I am too busy? I hope to see you soon. I still have your phone and e-mail numbers. albert_hunter@yahoo.com
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Post by Rockhound on Nov 11, 2005 11:28:27 GMT -5
Hi folks... Just a couple of things, 1: I'm back online now (in case you hadn't noticed, I've been offline for months now!), I've moved house and got a new job so "hooray" for me 2: I couldn't believe my eyes when I checked this today... www.treasurenet.com/forum/treasurehunting/What do you make of that? I think it stops a little before the time I got involved, but interesting nonetheless huh? (Or am I so "out of the loop" that I'm last to learn of this?) OH and one other thing... Thank you all for keeping the forum so active in my absence!! Your enthusiasm is very much appreciated! Rockster
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Post by Rebel KGC on Nov 11, 2005 19:24:31 GMT -5
Yo! Rebel here: Sounds good Beale... WB Rockster (playing "Clan-an-Druma"...) War drums are a'beating... also have "Indian" blood (1/4 Monacan...) HA! Bring on da GHOSTIES! ;D
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Post by Elwood Chaney on Nov 13, 2005 13:17:15 GMT -5
Actually... the quote is: "The game is not worth the candle." and comes from Montaigne's Essays (1588), translated into English by Charles Cotton (1685).
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