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Post by TOMm on Oct 30, 2006 17:39:33 GMT -5
Hi Gents
I know where one of those squares are in a mountain side in bed ford county Penna. enclosed in everegreen trees *i remain as ever* and you can only see it* With this design* only certain times of the day *ere the time ex pires*
Any of you know about a 500 pound pyramid buried by Early masons or the wheatherman SNOSAM
TOMm
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Post by Rebel KGC on Nov 4, 2006 20:02:13 GMT -5
Yo! Rebel here: ;D beale/tbj... ALERT! "Buck" T. Wright...on another thread, is info from mc25a re. some "old cabin" on the "line", upper Goose Creek Valley... do U wanna check it out? LGA!
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Post by TOMm on Nov 4, 2006 20:10:09 GMT -5
MR Beal Poor richards almanac (code) Snosam is M a s o n s weather man is a place cant say more but the five hundred pound gold Piramid is buried for juist in case purposes
TOMm
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Post by Ray on Nov 6, 2006 7:17:49 GMT -5
Ray here, For years off and on, I have read in the Beale Treasure Forums, hoping to read something that someone had actually solved the codes, I have never really found that. I decided tonight that I would give you something that has always puzzled me, something that I came across in my own searching of the cypher pages, 1, and 3. I'll be straight to the point, and you can look for yourself to verify what I tell you, and ask yourself, what does this mean, and then you figure the odds of this being a coincident or not. --- To begin, take the letter no. 3 in cypher, and on graph paper, first remove the first 5 numbers, (units) for instance, 3, 1, 7, 8, 9, then beginning with number 2, write the numbers down 50 to a line, you will end up with 30 lines exactly if you have did it right. Bear with me as it has been years since I did this, but if you pay attention, you can duplicate my work. Now, divide the paper into three parts, for instance, the top ten lines are one part, the next ten lines, are the second part, the last ten lines are the third part, lay the second ten lines on top of the first ten lines, then lay the third ten lines on top of the second set, you will wind up having three layers of numbers, when decoding, read down when adding the numbers, you always add them by three, for instance; 784, or what ever they add up to, then use the key to get the letter for that set of numbers. Because it has been so long and because I tried three different documents, I am not sure which one I used to get the message, but if you try all three you will find the right one that I used, also, one day this week I will sit down and redo them myself to find the right one, in case someone on this board can't find it and think I may have lied. The three documents I used were, "The Declaration and Resolve of The First Continental Congress," " The Sedition Act," and " The Sugar Act,". I am sure it was the Sedition Act that I was successful with. I didn't pay any attention to this until years later when someone asked me if I knew the odds of this being a coincidence, after he told me how great the odds were I always kept it in mind, and since I am beginning to lose interest solving the code more each year as I get older, and after reading that no one will actually tell something on this forum that is helpful, I thought that I would give you this information. The message I got was on one line, and two words that were distinguishable on the line below it, were all that the deciphering would reveal, why the rest of the numbers didn't decode I don't know, but here is the words I decoded on that one line, it was about the seventh line down from the top of the ten lined tier. ---- "abe lincoln was selected by the north as their gop president," and below on the next line about half way through the line were, --- " and furthermore," and that was all the deciphering revealed. In those 50 letters there were 9 that were misspelled, and that leaves 41 letters that were right, why those were wrong I never could discover, and I got the feeling that this line was somehow missed by someone that had wrote the cipher letters and had missed scrambling these, and the two words on the live below that one. Since that line didn't help me in solving the ciphers I never did give it much thought until later years after I could never find anything more, I remembered thinking that was the only actual and clear message I ever got from all my efforts. I hope this will encourage you to keep looking for something that will decode the entire first and third cipher letter, anyway, I did give this forum something I have kept to myself for many years, if it's helpful to you, then that's all well and good. Sincerely, Ray 11/6/2006
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Post by Rebel KGC on Nov 6, 2006 8:36:34 GMT -5
Yo! Rebel here: ;D That's VERY good, Ray... keep working on it and share what U find, THANKS! It may well be that the codes are really "secret messages" that includes intended info... for instance... we all have "looking for a pot of Gold"... MAYBE, what we SHOULD be looking for is info on the hidden history from War of 1812 to Civil War eras... MAYBE the listing of pp to "get" from the Treasure is really a listing of Rebel spies... dunno; just "thinking outside da box" here...
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Post by TOMm on Nov 11, 2006 14:26:26 GMT -5
gentle men
let it be known that a grid of 9 by X 17 / 76 17/71 17/77 17/79 18/17 18/19 18/22 18/32 ARE used for differnt reasons and are not only in English but are somtimes phonetical words are used with a German word some words are in French some in Latin and some in Spanish and some in Greek
there is some cussing and a few four letter slang words in one of the grids M .... O R R I S S IS IN PLAIN VIEW ON THE RIGHT SIDE OV THE GRID THATS A FACT
BUT tis my opinion that unless some one know of the old place names and changed town names that are in them its going to be a lot longer until completely broken AND THE MAIN VAULT is not in virginia not to say thats a vault or iorn mine in virginia
here is a clue grid the WHOLE phamplet especially the dated letters used excell n well back to the old gridstone TOMm ^
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Post by TOMm on Nov 12, 2006 19:14:18 GMT -5
MR BILL ITS good to see that your a pretty good reader, but if may give a suggestion that you might wanna take a refresher cousrse in cypherrin or syphernn or seyefrn cause "IT" aint a ""IT" & it is part of a word and virginia taint entirely Virginia perse since this board was set up for the exchange of ideas and and friendly intercourse of conversation to extrapulate ideas and expound on thoughts of of decyphering the codes of whomever .
And how dose one know that you know that what your posting about is the right path to to where or what ever your looking for I ve read your ideas for years i aint seen no muney from Virginia using youre shared info if you read my post im the first of many of the ideas including Jesse James and many others 3D etc etc because the letters themselves are themselves
and only you and no other member is barking at my posting until now i have responded only in a kind and gentlemans way respecting each one and thier ideas and the exchange of ideas was the geneses of this board
i usually dont bark back but since you have not obtained the rank of Post Master General on this board im going to keep posting untill im found guilty of breakig the boards rules of edicate of posting if you post something thats all well and good ;post it, and let men that have gray matter make their own opinion and and have enough common sence to sift the chaff from the wheat and thats exaclty what the author of these letters did the last post i gave will be one of the best ever given on the beal treasure and you Cant take it to the bank when whom ever gets there will probaly find a note from TOmm
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Post by Rebel KGC on Nov 12, 2006 19:35:27 GMT -5
Yo! Rebel here: ;D TOMm, I was the one, NOT beale... AND... he is NOT I, nor am I HE... U did good in posting on this thread... we want your investigations... just do 'em and let us know how it goes... in terms of the "Buck" W.T. Wright investigation... it is a "local thing", since we ALL are in this area, talking to pp and researching info... "Thinking OUTSIDE the Box"; the Beale Codes, HAVE NOT solved ANYTHING for over @ 150 years... Speaking of THE BOX... P. Innis family may have it somewhere OR... it is in a museum... probably in the Roanoke, Va. area... Mrs. Innis may be dead by now... so we CAN NOT ask her... BUT we CAN and WILL research the other modern "players" in this drama OR do the research necessary, INCLUDING hiking thru these mountains... can U do that? check out yer areas in Pennsylvania, West Virginia... etc. etc. CHECK 'EM ALL OUT for us... and "post" what U find in a appropriate thread... THANKS!
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Post by TOMm on Nov 14, 2006 20:00:15 GMT -5
THANKS GENTS Juist wanted to say thword iorn box is not iorn or shaped like a box
Now how can i make such a statement ?? its because the letters I O R N B O X were needed to intersect with other words and letters in a grid, try the grid, if you have the correct grid it tells exactly where the key is hidden away and One will quickly realizes its not Shaped like a box and its not made of iorn and its not (the Key is not in virginia) the key is a stencil to read the correct letters from the Beal letters AND DOI Thats in the grid also Ii used the DOI for the gridS (PLURAL) i intend to bring up the key in a years time any body wanta go key hunting
If any of you can give me answer to this puzzeling question when was the great seal made i thought 1788/89 but why is it in the grids 1776 although i have found the great seal over a legde as i have said before i think it was not put there for the chipmunks to look at, Its 3 to 4 feet across an 3 inches deep engraved in the rock somebody would have had to been in a rope sling over that ledge to chisle it out I think that one of those stencils are there.
I did a search on the seal *sealed* and i could not correlate a date other than 1789 And was T Jefferson from the PYTHIOUS lodge as was A Pike
All these things are in the grids of the right X by X and more.
TOMm
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Post by Rebel KGC on Nov 21, 2006 9:47:48 GMT -5
Yo! Rebel here: ;D beale, agrre with U... I think it is a "one word KEY" like "artichoke" used by Thom. Jefferson... it is interesting that the Hart Papers indicate the the "psychic" saw TJB sitting at a table, with an open Bible... writing SOMETHING on a piece of paper... http ://bealesolved.tripod.com/id10.html www.angelfire.com/pro/bealeciphers/Page11.htm
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Post by Rebel KGC on Nov 21, 2006 10:12:09 GMT -5
Yo! Rebel here: it just occurred to me that Thom. Jefferson DID 're-work" the New Testament... MAYBE Beale used THAT... dunno (Tom. Jefferson Bible... New Testament... removed the miraculous stuff...). Hmmmm...
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Post by TOMm on Nov 21, 2006 21:08:10 GMT -5
Hello
To answer your question in this post as well as in the other post of Nov 21-06
THOMAS J BEALE WAS An esquire MORRISS OF HIGHEST DEGREE
We now cant say the letters have integrity since Mr. G has pr oven the discrepancy JB WARD and JOB Presses PRICE gouging of 40 cents on two occasions i have deciphered the words "sample code"
the codes are more of a diary then anything else one vault i believe to be a Nostalgia VAULT with one item of each signer of DOI I KNOW SOME ONE THAT HAS ONE OF THE ITEMS it was buried near a place mentioned in a grid unless that was to mislead treasure hunters a form of lock i don't believe that morris or any body is/was to break into the filthy secrets of our history's past i don't care who was doing who? or what was who doing? as far as location of the MAIN VAULT I KNOW THAT DATES ARE PART OF THE UNSEEN KEY AND THAT THERE IS A TREASURE AND THAT THERE IS A KEY NOT SURE OF THE LETTERS NOW, AND IF THAT EVER TURNS OUT TO BE AFFIRMED, THEN MY OLD THEORY OF THERE AIN'T NO TREASURE BEDFORD COUNTY VIRGINIA, FROM THE TREASURE OF T.J.B STANDS, IF THERE EVER HAPPENS TO BE, I NOW STAND TO BE CORRECTED AND APOLOGIZE.
Sincerely,
TOm
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Post by TOMm on Nov 22, 2006 21:06:33 GMT -5
DEAR Mr BEALE
Ill GLADLY SHOW YOU one EMPTY vault with this arrangement that you read the codes in three d and report to this post(rock hounds new treasure forum) if what you see is indeed 3 d after you see the emp[ty vault, The vault is under a huge boulder with a lid at ground level there is a huge room dug below the boulder the lid is hand cut stone about four feet wide by two and half feet across about three inches thick its MMT AFTER THAT then let that fantasy thing you keep writing that i have be put to rest
HERES A BIG BRAG I HAVE KNOWN WHERE THE MAIN VAULT IS FOR MANY MANY YEARS BUT I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THOSE CODES SAY IN ONE PIECE i don't recall or think i said that there wasn't a vault in VA i keep telling ya that its not in Bedford county VA
how can i say that its because its in the grids plural but the grids give a fragmented reading
and if i show some of what i might have our uncle will want it he got me and it one time and never again it will stay in that other 2 vaults un less someone digs them out
Find the word circulate in the pamphlet and get out a THESAURUS and see what that word might mean let me make it simple and easy for you S P I R A L as in read in a circle
TOMm
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Post by Rebel KGC on Nov 22, 2006 21:42:10 GMT -5
Yo! Rebel here: ;D TOMm, IF you KNOW where the "vault" is... show us a "pic'... you DO NOT need the code(s) solved... you ALREADY KNOW... OR you are just fishing for info...
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Post by TOMm on Nov 23, 2006 10:57:09 GMT -5
Happy Thanks Giving
First off the key board is that other small locations do exsist and are verifiable in the grids THE DATES ARE THE GRID SIZE start with DOI and the letter Dates and also Grid the pamphlet then you get a differnt number pattern even more so when you *circulate the papers*<<< in pamphlet < that could be over and under rollers or geared wheel, i like spiral ,hey gang remeber the word trance in harts section a hypnotic spiral is endless but dose have a ratio of x
and part 2 for Rebel. ;
why do you want pics of a empty vault? although i will put them up
wouldnt you rather see it in real form? it just a huge boulder that has a room dug out under it but there is a cave nearby i never went in ( less then a mile) its about four miles from the diamonds i told KYDAVE about
heres the advantage i had i know the very old colonial place names and thats the ones used in the grids
HERES a small thanks giving gift for the two brothers "AND think" would you rather have garlic or ONIONS in your garden, im not sure ? of your taste ,,, To answer And i only have pieces off the treasure cypher open. remember i said i am determine to find the key i just happen to know of stone map to a a key i believe there is another in montvale on tavern property not a key but a stone map if thats so then it would be ontop of stone it would black stone
Part 3 MR beale it would be very difficult to remove and why would i waste all the years of searching and scoffing i caught to just up and give the endless hrs away it a gov lost mint
TOMm
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