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Post by David Mason on Oct 7, 2005 23:46:52 GMT -5
Some results are in.........believe or not....no gibberish
32...47...63...96...124...217...314...319...221...644...817.. T....H.....E.....R......E......A.......R........E......T.......W......X....
821...934...922...416...975...10...22...18...46...137...181... X.......X........X.......E........X......N.....T......Y....F.......I.......V....
101...39...86...103...116....138....164...212...218...296... E.......G.....O.....L.......D.........E........N.......C......O.......I......
815....380....412....460....495.....675...820.....952 N.........S........H........E.........R........E.......X.........X
Sorry can't get an exact alignment here but you can get the idea
all numbers over 816 are xxxxx's The exact translation of BC2 using pamphlet DOI is a key ingredient The Mistakes are a key ingredient There is more than 1 code within the codes the codes are not in order, that is the decoded messages are not in order.....TJB will help or has so far some of the words are backwards but entirely legible as to spelling and context BC3 must be deciphered before BC1 will be readable
and no I do not have the entire thing completed next clue takes me to Article I, Sec. 3 of the Constitution
Hope this helps in some little way........
Getting tired of reading garbage posts of light thinkers It's all in the pamphlet on what to do
David
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Post by Rebel KGC on Oct 8, 2005 8:19:56 GMT -5
Yo! Rebel here: ;D "light thinker"?!!? HA! HA! HA! Rattling Light-Saber a la STAR WARS....
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Post by David Mason on Oct 8, 2005 20:10:22 GMT -5
Well done Rebel.......Your post makes my point exactly
Apparently from what I have been able to unravel in the Beale Ciphers........The Beale papers were published as a contest and there was a prize to be recovered, maybe it is still there or maybe not, probably when the pamphlet sales went into left field the prize was withdrawn and all that is left is the mystery of solving it.
A gentleman on Ron Gervais' site Beale Cipher Analysis, pages 20 and 24 give an interesting solution to who may have wrote the Pamphlet and why. Seriously interested individuals not involved in starwars activities might want to look at those pages and read the material presented.
Here is some more of the quagmired code, BC3
42...40...66...85...94...112...65...82...115...119...236 0....N.....E.....I......S......S......I......L......V.......E.......R
Run the numbers through your own programs
David
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Post by Rebel KGC on Oct 8, 2005 21:24:15 GMT -5
Yo! Rebel here: ;D LGA! Yep, run it thru yer programs... AND... "May the FORCE... be with you!"
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Post by David Mason on Oct 10, 2005 10:54:47 GMT -5
If any of you go to the Gervais site and down load the c1c3 analysis program, you will find that the BC2 codes used have been changed to match the solution given and removing what many consider to be mistakes in counting by the author or type setter......to correct that and go back to the original code as printed (as the author intended it to be use) , the author of the program password protected it, to remove this protection and change the code back to its intended form, the author used the pass word Beale,...just unprotect it and retype BC2 to match the pamphlet codes and then type in the translation as given in the pamphlet. Following the first paragraph of the translation and the sentence ending with......"3" here with: some names go into this space......a little bit of imagination and thought and you can figure this out. The program once it is corrected back to what is given in the pamphlet is an invaluable tool to help you get results. guess you could say the Empire Strikes Back, Chewing Tabacco, Mucus Bog Water and Hands on Alone playing with his Light Sabor, May your Farce be with you. 8-)remove the blinders and see ;D
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Post by kydave on Oct 24, 2005 18:18:34 GMT -5
David, Sounds like you have something goin there! I know your working with all the mistakes involved so here's another. I just happened to notice on Ron's site in the Lynchburg paper that they got the wrong amount for the silver and jewels in their April 10 1885 article. This just caught my eye. Got the silver at 5102 and the jewels valued at $18,000. Strange unless they didn't read c2 or maybe just an honest mistake but they did get the gold amount right, who knows
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Post by kydave on Oct 24, 2005 18:35:11 GMT -5
Sure hope c2 hasn't been altered over the years for some reason!
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Post by Rebel KGC on May 22, 2006 15:43:32 GMT -5
Yo! Rebel here: The numbers in the Beale "Codes", on 3 individual pieces of paper... was orginally provided to C. Hart by Newton Hyde Hazlewood... then to Ward, Morris, et al... in @ 1885... Hazlewood was the author, Ward was the Agent. Hazlewood must have used the Bacon/Shakespeare Cyphers to encode... Ward used the Beale Western story as a "COVER"... LGA!!! Hart was asked by Hazlewood to type the numbers slightly different to "protect" the TREASURE so survivors or descendants could access the TREASURE later... OR... to drive us ALL mad/insane... AND the pamphlet warned us all of that...
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Post by David Mason on May 24, 2006 17:16:12 GMT -5
In response to Rebels post... 1st...There is no documentation to verify the statement the codes were printed only on 3 individual pieces of paper....all that is known is Hazlewood gave Hart sheets of paper to retype Next Morris (s) passed away long before 1885 so he had no contact with Hazlewood, and then there is no evidence to indicate that Hazlewood was the author of The Beale Papers in-fact research indicates all Hazlewood ever had in his possession were hand copied papers of the codes taken from the original publication. Careful reading of "GOLD IN THE BLUE RIDGE" by Innis and what she has to say about the pamphlet contradicts the belief of Hazlewood being the author among other things. And then Hazlewood is purported to have asked Ward to change the codesand not Hart as stated...... But, Ward by all statements concerning him was a man of honor and is reported as stating that all in the pamphlet is true. To simplify it: Investigation will show you that Hazlewoods only contribution to the Beale Mystery was to introduce it to the Harts. Did you know that initials are considered cipher? DM
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Post by Rebel KGC on May 24, 2006 21:02:37 GMT -5
Yo! Rebel here: ;D Thank U, Mr. Mason for yer input... go to "The Beale Papers" - www.myoutbox.net/beale.htmU will see where I get the 3 papers of numbers from... I know Mr. Morriss died before the Beale Papers came out; STILL, he IS a "player" in the story/Beale Papers... AND... U R correct, there is NO evidence that Hazlewood was the author... BUT, he was a in the confederate army, AND... the Beale Papers has the 1861 "start date"... AND... the author was called to Richmond, Va. Hmmm, sounds like a Rebel Spy to me...
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Post by Rebel KGC on May 24, 2006 21:18:52 GMT -5
Yo! Rebel here: ;D Even more... "The Hart Papers" bealesolved.tripod.com/id/10.html in 1897 Clayton Hart was asked by Newton Hazlewood to MAKE COPIES, not type... hmmm... 1897... 1885... Geeze!
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Post by Rebel KGC on May 24, 2006 21:25:03 GMT -5
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Post by Rebel KGC on May 24, 2006 21:28:08 GMT -5
Yo! Rebel here: Just do engine search for the Hart Papers... was on my "favourites"... strange, must be gone now, dunno...
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Post by Rebel KGC on May 25, 2006 9:19:47 GMT -5
Yo! Rebel here: ;D Thanks Beale! Just following the "Chain of Custody"/Chain of Evidence per story... I can't say that Hazlewood IS the author... he DID live in Monvale, Va. while working in Roanoke, Va. He DID serve in confederate army during the C.W.; he IS buried in Montvale Va. (looking for his "gravesite", now...); maybe it is buried under his gravesite, dunno...
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Post by Rebel KGC on May 25, 2006 9:57:13 GMT -5
Yo! Rebel here: ;D DANG! This stuff is FUN!!! I have a general idea where Hazlewood's "grave-site" is... right up from Montvale, Va. within "4 miles from Buford's" (whatever...); hmmm... gotta go find my shovel... see if "land" is "private"... Beale, U ready? (sunny out... calling for rain...)
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