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Post by beale on Sept 1, 2007 16:49:16 GMT -5
For all you Beale Treasure hunters the trip to Vinton was well worth it today for me. I met several historians of the Beale Treasure one in particular Frank Otey Smith. Claudine Ellis' book, The Beale Treasure, The Key is a must see book by all of you still hunting for the Beale Treasure and you that are still trying to break the codes.
Claudine Ellis' book tells the man's name that was entrusted with the letter to deliver to Robert Morriss June 1832. She tells of his murder, where he is buried, how she found Thomas Jefferson Beale's letter and she was young at the time and did not know the importance of it. She tells what happened to this letter and a copy of the letter she made and what happened to it. I sure enjoyed reading this book immensely.
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Post by Rebel KGC on Sept 1, 2007 19:07:50 GMT -5
Yo! ;D beale, you had a good day... so did wife & I; we were with the HOKIE NATION. Where can I/WE get a copy of Claudine's book, do you know? THANKS! ;D
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Post by beale on Sept 1, 2007 19:14:08 GMT -5
Rebel,
I don't know? I have her brother's phone number is all that I have and I have been unable to get in contact with him. I spoke to his wife and she said she could not give out Claudine's phone number without her permission. If I find out I will let you know.
I was unable to place a scan on this forum however I did place one on "Famous Treasures" and "Treasurenet" If you would like to see the front and the back cover of the book.
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Post by beale on Sept 2, 2007 12:05:05 GMT -5
The book written by Claudine Fulton Ellis can be purchased at deborah_painter@hotmail.com
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Post by TOMm on Sept 2, 2007 12:50:45 GMT -5
Hello GENTS
I thought i would stop by and tell ya that the location (area) of the key has been found ,but,not the physical key itself. YET!! i have found it on paper . and it states the locale but not the exact spot.
i have also located the Iron B OX area on paper!
The Treasure consorts of more then thats stated in those letters Ive only been able to read the misleading cyphers due to knowledge of place names .
those letters are not true. i aint broke the codes i just used common sense. to put enough pieces together to get partr of a picture . the codes were written in 18th century and publish by comission in 1819 Now ill expect to hear rebuttal . i can prove what i have written.
one way would be show the key upon its recovery along with the iorn box.
cheers
TOMm
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Post by beale on Sept 2, 2007 16:40:58 GMT -5
TOMm,
Is there any chance of you telling us what your last name is?
You mentioned something a long time ago about finding the "KEY" in a family Bible. What was the name of the family Bible? If you found it? What was in the Bible?
I am not doubting you I know the truth, I want to see if you will verify what I know?
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Post by beale on Sept 3, 2007 12:00:03 GMT -5
For all you Beale Treasure hunters the trip to Vinton was well worth it today for me. I met several historians of the Beale Treasure one in particular Frank Otey Smith. Claudine Ellis' book, The Beale Treasure, The Key is a must see book by all of you still hunting for the Beale Treasure and you that are still trying to break the codes. Claudine Ellis' book tells the man's name that was entrusted with the letter to deliver to Robert Morriss June 1832. She tells of his murder, where he is buried, how she found Thomas Jefferson Beale's letter and she was young at the time and did not know the importance of it. She tells what happened to this letter and a copy of the letter she made and what happened to it. I sure enjoyed reading this book immensely. REBEL, SEND ME A PERSOANL MESSAGE OR EMAIL ME YOUR PHONE NUMBER I NEED TO CHAT WITH YOU.
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Post by Rebel KGC on Sept 3, 2007 15:11:14 GMT -5
Yo! ;D beale, DONE... all info sent via e-mail to U 15 minutes ago.
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Post by beale on Sept 8, 2007 17:02:40 GMT -5
I have been wondering since my post about the "KEY" being found, why no one is posting or saying anything on the subject. Don't everyone see that this makes the "Job Print Pamphlet" fact and there really is a Beale Treasure in the mountains of Bedford County to find.
Lord wake up people.
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Post by David on Sept 8, 2007 21:24:46 GMT -5
Beale,
About the key to Beale ciphers....We are awake out here...Claims, claims and more claims....the truth is in the validation....nothing is out here to make this claim anymore believable than any other.
You have a solution.......Bealesolved has a solution......Mel Hodgen had a solution........Roy Dallas has a solution.......TOMm has a solution...and on and on and on and on....etc
And I have a part to a solution that points to The Beale Papers as a game..................Validation.........We need Validation.
(also Albert...Deep into the disc you sent....I can see a lot of conscientious effort and research went into it....Not through it all yet but find that for its historical value about people it is worth the price you are charging....I will post more later on it for you.)
Based on what I have discovered about The Beale Papers, I have no confidence in claims to a solution that indicates there is a major treasure of gold, silver and jewels buried by a person whose name is Thomas Jefferson Beale.
Validation, need validation.
David
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Post by Rebel KGC on Sept 8, 2007 21:39:09 GMT -5
Yo! ;D Solution(s), validation(s), proof... HA! What do we need? I think it is an individual thing... tho, I CAN tell you that the natives of Bedford County are saying it is a "Rebel thing"; THAT is ALL they need. THAT is ALL the validity they need... family history, oral traditions, some written down like Claudine Ellis' book (which I am STILL waiting for...). The Beale/Beall Treasure is NOT your typical "story"; it is MORE like the Silver Mines of J. Swift... the "signs" are there... BUT! "IT" is not... "IT" being "THE TREASURE".
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Post by TOMm on Sept 8, 2007 23:58:55 GMT -5
Dear Gents
In all due respect i agree that validation is needed ;
so i went to the area where the keyS are suppesedly buried the climb is very steep and rocky; the object of what the marker is suposed to be ; was with out doubt there!! so in the mean time i have located two other objects mentioned mabe three ..
THE marker to the jewels 2 a silver coin in coin in a PEONY BUSH checked out .
3 A brass Knife Scabber Dated 1810 With TJ initials on it and also some sort of rotten saddle bags were there, along with the brass rings from the rotten leather
AND a special peice of silver plate
i dont think there is a Large treasure in bedford virginia ,well not as large as code two stated BUT i believe there is a very large treasure somewhere else. This is not to say that there is not ANY treasure involving Beale. in virginia the names are not spelled in normal spelling most times most of this can be shown by using the DOI and CON
the keys 9 (PLURAL) should be dug up this fall after snakes go in and i can find some youger helper. the original letters should be with the find the jewles will be hardest to find unless there is metal such as rings and necklaces
it is very well possible to be more than one Valid Method of finding a way to break into these syphurs because each syphur uses a different key. in my opinion; but no solid method until the real keys are on the table this fall
cheers TOMm
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Post by beale on Sept 9, 2007 5:25:53 GMT -5
Beale, About the key to Beale ciphers....We are awake out here...Claims, claims and more claims....the truth is in the validation....nothing is out here to make this claim anymore believable than any other. You have a solution.......Bealesolved has a solution......Mel Hodgen had a solution........Roy Dallas has a solution.......TOMm has a solution...and on and on and on and on....etc And I have a part to a solution that points to The Beale Papers as a game..................Validation.........We need Validation. (also Albert...Deep into the disc you sent....I can see a lot of conscientious effort and research went into it....Not through it all yet but find that for its historical value about people it is worth the price you are charging....I will post more later on it for you.) Based on what I have discovered about The Beale Papers, I have no confidence in claims to a solution that indicates there is a major treasure of gold, silver and jewels buried by a person whose name is Thomas Jefferson Beale. Validation, need validation. David David, I am not offering a solution in my post above, I was telling everyone that the "KEY" has shown up in recent history and may very well surface again. This lady that wrote this book if you read it you would know that she found the "KEY" in 1939. She saw it again in 1947 and she did not find out what it was until 1952 when the Hart Papers were placed in the Roanoke Library or whenever that was? She contacted the lady that had the "KEY" again in 1985. She has since passed away and now everyone is searching for the "KEY" Also she made a copy when she was eight years old and she tracked it down to a computer expert in Washington, D. C. but was unable to get his name. I believe her and I also believe the Beale Treasure is a real buried treasure of gold, silver and jewels and one day I will verify it.
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Post by David on Sept 10, 2007 3:07:09 GMT -5
Beale I understood what you were saying about the lady and her KEY...All I am saying or trying to say is "There are so many claims of individuals claiming they have found the missing KEY, in a bible, in a box, passed down by a relative, given to them by a wandering hobo, so forth and so on. Is it any wonder, another claim of finding a KEY raises no eyebrows or interest?" Validation by the claimant to tantalize the interest is needed before any belief in a claim will be generated, in other words some sort of varifiable proof. YOU POSTED: I have been wondering since my post about the "KEY" being found, why no one is posting or saying anything on the subject. Don't everyone see that this makes the "Job Print Pamphlet" fact and there really is a Beale Treasure in the mountains of Bedford County to find.And I am saying "I do not see how this claim by this woman makes the pamphlet a fact and there really is a treasure." The lady needs to Validate the claim......Then I believe.....simply make a claim as many others have done and I will POO POO it in a heart beat. I don't claim a solution, but I will claim I have found a method of encryption used in The Beale Papers, this method does in-fact produce varifiable results that cannot be accidental and are not co-incidental. A portion of this method can be found on Ron Gervais' site....Beale Ciphers Analysis....The portion of this method I chose to reveal indicates a connection to either E. Poe or to his works. This connection then would strongly suggest The Beale Papers Pamphlet is nothing more than a game. Go to Gervais' site, Page 26 and down load what I wrote, do the method yourself as explained. it is extremely simple and not time consuming, then see the result...see for yourself if this result is accidental or co-incidental.......or maybe, just ,maybe you will see it is part of a pattern... 'Over the Mountains of the Moon, And down the Valley of the Shadow, Ride, boldly ride, the shade replied--- IF YOU SEEK FOR EL DORADO. I have no more argument left in me...Thy treasure awaits thee somewhere near Otters Peak 4 miles from Buford's in an excavation or vault six feet below the surface of the ground in iron pots with iron covers resting on stone and surrounded by others....good luck with your search. David
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Post by beale on Sept 10, 2007 19:37:17 GMT -5
David,
How much validation do you need? In her book she has 16 signed and notarized affidavits not counting her own testimony. I am giving her the benefit of the doubt. I am researching anything and everything trying to locate this "KEY" again. It may not be possible but with the affidavits it makes it valid at least to me.
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