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Sept 19, 2004 10:54:41 GMT -5
Post by Wild Card on Sept 19, 2004 10:54:41 GMT -5
Has any one noticed this?
Samuel B. Clemens... home --- Bedford County, Va. ... family members also setled there... mainly along the green banks of GOOSE CREEK.
Don't forget... I told you years ago that Samuel Langhorn CLEMENS (aka.; Mark Twain) was one of those who created this mystery!!! and this definitely establishes his 'link' to that particular area.
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beale
Sept 19, 2004 13:27:50 GMT -5
Post by Rockhound on Sept 19, 2004 13:27:50 GMT -5
Sorry Wildcard, I'm not ignoring you, but TOMm, does this link take you to the puzzle you were referring to? puzzlehunt.isetv.com/Puzzles/Japanese.aspWildcard, again I apologise but I'm in no position to comment on your post... Just didn't want to it to appear that I was ignoring you Rockhound
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Sept 21, 2004 19:51:35 GMT -5
Post by TOMm on Sept 21, 2004 19:51:35 GMT -5
Thanks a million ,yes that dose take me to the correct link i was particurly interested in the answer of the Japanese puzzel, more than the puzzel itself because the theory ive been working on is the key to beal is in the phamphlet and the cypher ( also a town in PENNA.)The cypher is what is to be found first..(reverses) in the discprition of Morris by Ward/ Hart (HEART) is definitely a key word I have used to great reward i also like the Minoan puzzel for the *false/ idle punctillio* it presents a solution that tells me the spelling of beals is not accurate and misleading.
Thanks again TOMm
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Sept 23, 2004 13:56:54 GMT -5
Post by TOMm on Sept 23, 2004 13:56:54 GMT -5
howdy ! Thats mountain speak for: hello or how are you doing this fine day?
if you felllers mosey over on to the web site by the name of my out box dot net
you will see william freidmens work and it gives credence to the three dimension (*3D*) cipher ive tried to get thru to any one with an open mind JUST LOOK under friedmens *method of calculation* anse where he talks obout the shapes and curves of characters. But there is that * but* word again; just like other strange but true dicoveries most humans are not open to something out of the norm of things
just take the number *2* code* from the roanoak library and enlarge it in a very dark (*all thats DARK in them*) using it with a fuzzy low resolution and if thjat dosnt satisfy those that are curious i have solid in the hand proof that cannot be denied remember in previous post on this site i stated about digging up some items ive never claimed de cypher any of these codes only that the thre demension *3D* is an intregal part of the decyphering of them head toward Bedford County Pa and find vault number*A* Head toward *FIDDLE VA* and dig up the green bottle with the decypher key in it... to find Fiddle first see it in three *D* with a candle as part of the neck on th fiddle and a HAND with the middle finger as part of the candle abstacted in the hand is a key abstracted into a fist ive done all that ican do with out physicaly pointing it out to whomever.... youll need a topo map ther are more vaults i hope that you will remember wher you got your info... TOMm
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Sept 25, 2004 14:25:51 GMT -5
Post by Wild Card on Sept 25, 2004 14:25:51 GMT -5
Well, Sports Fans... ole' Wild Card is at it again! Look-ee, Look-ee!!! at what I have this time!!!
Y'all know that we have argued for years about just 'who the hell' was this guy "Beale?" that the pamphlet refers too. Well, maybe this will decidedly put an end to that question.
Below, are some excerpts from some 'Letters'... that I think should interest everyone:
"He visited the provinces once certainly, and three times it is believed, stopping in Montreal at St. Lawrence Hall, and banking four hundred and fifty-five dollars odd at the Ontario bank. This was his own money. I have myself seen his bank-book with the single entry of this amount. It was found in the room of Atzerott, at Kirkwood's Hotel. From this visit, whatever encouragement Booth received, he continued in systematic correspondence with one or more of those agents down to the commission of his crime. I dare not say how far each of these agents was implicated. My personal conviction is that they were neither loth to the murder nor astonished when it had been done. They had money with discretion from the confederacy, though acting at discretion and outside of responsibility, and always, at every wild adventure, they instructed their dupes that each man took his life in his hand on every incursion into the north. So "Beale" took his, raiding on the great lakes. So Kennedy took his, on a midnight bon-fire tramp into the metropolis. So took the St. Albans raiders their lives in their palms, dashing into a peaceful town. And if these agents entertained Wilkes Booth's suggestion at all they plainly told him that he carried his life in his dagger's edge, and could expect from them neither aid nor exculpation."
"John S. Young, chief of the New-York detective force, a powerful and resolute man, whose great weight and strength are matched by boundless energy, and both subordinate to a head as clear as the keen and searching warrant of his eye. This man has been in familiar converse with every rebel agent in the Canadas, and is feared by the as they fear the fates of "Beall" and Kennedy.
"Three weeks ago I gave, in an account of the conspiracy which many gainsayed, but which the trial has fully confirmed, a sketch of this man, to which I still adhere. He was furnished to Booth and John Surratt from Canada; sent upon special service with his life in his hands; and he faced the murder he was to commit like any prize-fighter. I pity "Beall," who died intelligently for a wretched essay against civilians, that his biography and fate must be matched by this savage's."
"They were, altogether, a motley and miserable set. Ravaillae might have looked well swinging in chains; Charlotte Corday is said to have died like an actress; "Beale" hung not without dignity, but these people, aspiring to overturn a nation, bore the appearance of a troop of ignorant folks, expiating the blood-shed of a brawl."
Now that you have read the above excerpts, from a nationally renowned newspaper article, remember when I told you all that:
the reference to "June" was to that of "Junius Booth"
in the C2 message, the amount of "tweve hundred and eighty-eight" (1288) was to --- Serial Volume 1288 - United States Government, Executive Documents of the House of Representatives, SECOND Session of the THIRTY-NINTH Congress, 1866-67, Government Printing Office 1867 The Official Government Investigation into the Assassination of President Abraham Lincoln
Well, Sports Fans... there you have it, and now.... "What say you???"
"Do I think that this is all there is to this story?"
"HELL NO!!! There is... STILL, a lot to be said about this mystery. And I will be the one to 'reveal IT."
WILD CARD
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Sept 25, 2004 16:07:28 GMT -5
Post by tjb on Sept 25, 2004 16:07:28 GMT -5
Hi Wildcard,
The Beale you are making reference to is not Thomas J. Beale. He was John Beale from Harper's Ferry, Virginia. (Now West Virginia)
It was because of John Beale that Abraham Lincoln was assassinated. He had been in the Confederate Infantry and transferred to the Confederate Navy. He performed heroic acts against the Yankees. On one of these occassions he stole a Yankee Warship and planned on freeing several hundred Confederate Prisoners of War from Fort Monroe or Fort Pulaski. (I have all of this information in my files, but am unable to find it at the present time)
Beale was captured in his efforts to free the prisoners. Since, he had stolen a Yankee Warship the Yankees were going to try him as a spy. John Wilkes Booth, Beale's best friend went to Confederate Secretary of the Navy, Stephen Mallory and later had audience with President Jefferson Davis. He pleaded for John Beale's life. John Beale was a wealthy and well liked plantation owner near Harper's Ferry. (This visit was what the Yankees connected between Booth and Davis, saying that Jefferson Davis had something to do with the assassination of Abraham Lincoln. Which he did not.)
John Wilkes Booth then went to Washington City to try and get an audience with Yankee President Abraham Lincoln. He finally succeeded. Lincoln turned him down and said the theif of the Yankee Warship was not an act of war, but an act of a spy. And John Beale would be executed accordingly. This being the reason John Wilkes Booth and others came up with the plan to assassinate Lincoln and the entire Yankee Cabinet members.
The rest is left to history.
Wildcard, you have some answers to the Beale Mystery but not all! Sorry.
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Sept 25, 2004 18:57:54 GMT -5
Post by Wild Card on Sept 25, 2004 18:57:54 GMT -5
Think so? Tell us what the "Key" is?
He-he-he-he!!!
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Sept 25, 2004 19:24:03 GMT -5
Post by tjb on Sept 25, 2004 19:24:03 GMT -5
Groff,
Are you asking Wildcard or myself? If you are asking me? The "KEY" is knowledge!
The Beale Treasure can be found for less than $200. By using knowledge instead of decyphering the codes. If things go well, I hope to prove this by Christmas. albert_hunter@yahoo.com
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Sept 25, 2004 20:10:59 GMT -5
Post by Wild Card on Sept 25, 2004 20:10:59 GMT -5
My statement was: "What is the "Key?"
And hopefully, everyone realizes, that the subject here, is the Civil War and Slavery; and a great contributor to that war, was... the "key"
And the Beale pamphlet clearly states: ".... the aid of 'a key'... nothing else... 'a key'
And I would have to say, that the 'key' in question is: "A KEY to UNCLE TOM'S CABIN" by Harriet Beecher Stowe, printed in 1854.
You see... this thing isn't so hard... is it?
Wild Card
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Sept 25, 2004 21:23:22 GMT -5
Post by TOMm on Sept 25, 2004 21:23:22 GMT -5
i have made some pretty hard to believe claims while trying to find a written key <notice i said written) i at one time used a theory that Lincoln (AKA) Collinn 's was some how connected with beal but theonly thing i found a source of gold ore that uncle sam was usingand that honest abe and mr Chase was printing a lot of paper money old abe told Salomon to print as many paper notes that he wished sinse Abe didnt have to manualy use his signature any more *source of info.* taken from all the letters and documents hard bound by congress i said all of that to say this that in a previos post i told about a cave with stacks and stacks of 100 dollar gold notes i might have posted it on the defunct web site the american treasure hunter at least i think its gone ecept i didnt tell this the bars and the notes in that vault were not any where near the same era of treasury money the bars wre 1817 and the note were newer well heres where its starts to get wild aS FAR AS TALL TELLS GO and if youre scepticle thats OK. cause every tall tell has some truth stuck inside it. that vault was about four miles from ABE LINCOLN alias Collins abe was not killed let alone shot ford thearter called me and spoke with me for two hours on thier dime (via phone call) that should be easy to prove that would be public record
abe was buried when he did finally die with an oblisk (12) sided marker the oblisk is gone now it was there when i was a boy a very good friend took me there. ive told a few peolpe but ((again)) narrow minded people shouldn't wear two ear rings, didht Abe dream or predict his death didnt an acrobatic actor stage (booth supposedly shot) Abe during anct then perform acrobatic stunt that he was familiar with doing shuch stunts by jumping as such an actor was booth booth went to WEST VIRGINIA to a place now called BOOTH wva. ABE is suposed to be buried in nine cubic feet of cement wasnt his body stolen if abe was shot in back of the head then why did his rocking chair go backwards (info source HARPERS PAPER) i even went as far as to get guest status at the lincoln home with his direct decendents and they told me a few more tall tells that i already had wind of ; how did so many gaurds let a limping man being chaced by a crowd let him thru none of them stopped him??? andcthe prisoners sent to Florida in the sun shine to ever be be seen again HMMMM why so far from DC/ wheres there death certificates?? abe was 6'4 he was shot/dream on 4'6/ abe was hated by 2million southerners; and he had mary commited to the mental hospital he got where he disliked her; The war was over and it was a perfect to to disappear with honor, ABE WAS TIRED AND WAR WEARY AND HE WANTED OUT; to make a long storyb short aliving dead man needs money to pay off hus people and to live on so a cofiin with the lid closed can carry a LOT OF MONEY IN IT especialy since it had an arm gaurd of military men surrouding the train and once again the gaurds slipped up HMMMM!!!! gaurding the train of a UNITED STATES PRESIDENTS thats hard to believe that they stole the coffin ABE took a hot air balloon to Bedford springs PA and the money went in the coffin to WVA. abe chose WVA because it was the boundary of the NORTH AND THE SOUTH he may have used the name gallager for a while im sure he was close friends with them Abes boys TAD an TODD played with my great grand farther afeter abe was supose to be dead and thats the truth so whats his boys doing in west virginia with no mother HMMMM?? any of you ever herd this befor THE WHEATHER BEING FINE**WHEATHER MOUNTAIN** berkly springs the secret under ground bunker of aal the big wigs in DC LAND there's a lot more to this story then i care to say at this point... but i dont believe the Beal( ABE) le BEAL TREASURE CODES are the same TOMm
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Sept 26, 2004 7:38:00 GMT -5
Post by Wild Card on Sept 26, 2004 7:38:00 GMT -5
I'm not going to try to dispute much of anything from the last posting and I'm sure that anyone reading it, would also 'recognize the signs' of why it would be ludicrous to do so. We all appreciate your endeavers.
Old friend... the underground government bunker you refer to is "Mount Weather"... and is located on top of Paris Mountain in Clarke County... a couple of miles ESE of Winchester, Virginia... just off of Rt. 50 East
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Sept 26, 2004 8:15:04 GMT -5
Post by tjb on Sept 26, 2004 8:15:04 GMT -5
First of all Wildcard a reply to your post of 9:10 p.m., the 25th of September.
You say "Uncle Tom's Cabin," by Harriet Beecher Stowe lead to the Civil War and Slavery.
Actually, what lead up to the Civil War dates back to when Thomas Jefferson wrote the DOI. He tried to end slavery and the delegates from the South would not sign the DOI without the Anti-Slavery amendment removed. Without a majority vote to pass the DOI, Thomas Jefferson had no alternative but to leave it out. Thomas Jefferson himself had already freed his slaves.
In 1810 another Senator took the floor of the House, he told them that if slavery wasn't abolished today that the price to end it later would be in rivers of blood. After that date every State that was admitted to the Union was split on the Free State Status or Slave State. Such as Texas, California and Missouri. A whole new law was adopted with admission of Missouri into the Union- the Missouri Compromise.
I can't see how Wildcard, you can state that a book was the "key" that lead to the Civil War and Slavery. A little bit shallow, don't you think.
As for your reply today at 8:38, again you are wrong. I hate to admit it but Tom was right. The bunker was in West Virginia. It was near White Sulphur Springs, West Virginia. As a gifted child, my school teacher told me when I was only eight years old, this being in 1962. I kept it secret, as did hundreds of other patriotic West Virginians did. I am proud of that statement because not a single word was leaked out. I never mentioned anything about it until the media made it public. They love to reveal secrets, but patriotic Americans never talk. How wonderful to know there are still trustworthy people in this country. Everytime someone wants to make a joke about West Virginians bare this in mind.
Hope I haven't disappointed you Wildcard, but you need to take a broader look instead of any easy fix.
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Sept 26, 2004 10:24:03 GMT -5
Post by Wild Card on Sept 26, 2004 10:24:03 GMT -5
tjb;
"SHOW ME" just where I said 'that Uncle Tom's Cabin' "lead" to the Civil War? YOU CAN'T do it... because I DIDN'T SAY IT!!! My 'remark' was: "contributor"... because it stirred-up hard feelings on both sides.
Obviously, you have 'no idea' what "A KEY" by H.B. S. really is... or you wouldn't have made ANOTHER very stupid remark, as you have just done.
As for your other "STUPID" remark... according to my West Virginia "map"... White Sulphur Springs is in "Greenbrier County"(adjacent to the Greenbrier State Park)... NOT 'berkly springs' The 'ONLY' 'berkeley springs' is here in Berkeley County... where I LIVE!!!
Today being Sunday... I will be sure to 'PRAY' that you 'regain your mental faculties' sometime in the future.
My "statements" STAND! Like it or not!!!
Wild Card... the one... the only!
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Sept 26, 2004 12:00:48 GMT -5
Post by tjb on Sept 26, 2004 12:00:48 GMT -5
Wildcard,
There is no need to bandy words with you, with your last response reveals your mentality.
Didn't your previous post say that the underground bunker was ESE of Winchester in Clarke County, Virginia. Enough said. Then you mention Berkley Springs in Berkley County, West Virginia. Come on either way whether Berkley Springs or White Sulpur Springs, both are in West Virginia, which proves my statement.
Your previous statements do not "stand, like it or not" maybe only in your own mind. I don't buy it and neither does anyone else.
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Sept 26, 2004 19:14:54 GMT -5
Post by Wild Card on Sept 26, 2004 19:14:54 GMT -5
Hey DUDE;
berkly springs... was TOMm's 'screw-up'
trying to 'mask' your mistakes... is your 'screw-up'
All I see out of both of you, are 2 forelorn individuals, with very empty lives, and nothing much else to look forward to, other than "taking up space" on this forum and on the planet. Try doing something useful for a change... walk a stray dog, help a cat clean out an empty can, pick-up hair out of the street, or better yet... go somewhere else and get a life. Try playing checkers! because this is not the game for you!!!
Wild & Wonderful... the WILD CARD
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