tjb
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beale
Sept 26, 2004 19:40:19 GMT -5
Post by tjb on Sept 26, 2004 19:40:19 GMT -5
Wildcard,
Tom's elevator may not go to the top floor, but you are always going to stay in the cellar.
I don't need any other game. I will be the man that comes up with the gold. You are welcome to come and pay the customary five dollars to look at it.
You can come and perform some of the occupations you listed for me some day, if you are lucky.
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beale
Sept 26, 2004 22:58:39 GMT -5
Post by TOMm on Sept 26, 2004 22:58:39 GMT -5
gee i just was trying to show a cavern that the old rail spliter used in beckly or berkly springs WVA that was an under ground bunker for uncle sam and now its a public attraction UNDER the hotel; since uncle moved to CO. the name of the mountain where the hotel sits is WHEATHER get out yee old topographic and take a gander and as to why i believe that his own death was staged at a play My American Cousin mabey one should put them words of that (play it to the end) in a grid **Its nice to be nice but, its much more nicer to be nicer* wait till the snake go in get your camera out and ill show what is dug up already TOMm
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beale
Sept 27, 2004 14:41:00 GMT -5
Post by Wild Card on Sept 27, 2004 14:41:00 GMT -5
tjb;
'Ya know--- these things you and TOMm 'believe with a passion' about this mystery... "They just aren't real,man!" " It's just a 're-hashing' of the Gold-Bug story." This part... (let me re-iterate)... This part--- WAS CREATED, just for guys like you and TOMm. But you're not alone......... there are 'hundreds' of you that have fallen into the same trap. Going down there to Bedford County, Virginia... tramping all-over the area--- looking under every rock(no matter what size), digging huge holes on peoples property, as much as 30 ft deep, all for naught, finding absolutely NOTHING... except the wrath of the locals. All the time... CONVINCED... that they(and you) are on the right path, and no-one could deter them from it. I went down there 'once.' Sat under a tree for about 45 minutes... ate a sandwich, drank a Pepsi... took in the full scope of the area... and then left. I have never returned there--- never will. All of you, with your humanistic 'need' for GREED and Instant Social Gratification... has led you in this direction, down a dead-end pathway. Sorry! but its true.
THERE IS(believe it or not)... another, much deeper... aspect to this mystery. A side that you could not even begin to fathom!!!
You two guys have joined all the others... like LEMMINGS!... blindly charging over a precipise... following the leader!
Why? Because of the reasons stated above.
YOU haven't taken the time to RESEARCH... just 'who' you were up against, in this 'game'... of WITS! Which, by your postings and actions... clearly shows that you still don't know. Not even marginally! Or 'to find' the other side(the intent) of this cleverly created mystery.... you haven't even begun to scratch the surface. Don't you realize that this thing took 20 years to create? Its the perfect "Gordian Knot"! and your not going to un-ravel it the way your going.
You--- tjb, and TOMm, and all the others... have willingly and aimlessly, backed yourselves... into a corner from which there is no escape. CHECK-MATE!!! You guys, with your methods and opinions, couldn't even be considered as contenders in this game!
West " O'by God!" Virginia's... Wild Card
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tjb
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beale
Sept 27, 2004 19:33:07 GMT -5
Post by tjb on Sept 27, 2004 19:33:07 GMT -5
Wildcard,
By you being some what of a country boy, like myself. You know when you go rabbit hunting, you may come back with a buck or half a dozen squirrels. I am the same way about the Beale Treasure. I may not find the Beale but it is fun not knowing exactly what you may find. A lot of history can be learned along the way. Some day this may help to find another treasure.
I know I have found some kind of a large treasure. It may not be the Beale Treasure but it is a large treasure about four miles from Bufford's. I have used the same method and located over five tons of Mexican Silver dollars in Danville, Virginia. I know it works. The same is true of the treasure in Bedford County. It has a much stronger reading than the five tons. I believe this is because of the gold content of the Beale Treasure.
I will have the necessary equipment to confirm this in about three weeks. I purchased it today. Like I said before, I will know positively by Christmas, whether the Beale Treasure or another large treasure is in Bedford County, Virginia or not. I have made over 235 trips to Bedford County. Each over 180 to 200 miles. I am not going to give up easy and greed is not the driving element. I hope you will at least encourage others to seek out the truth.
Tom, I apologize for my remarks. I like to read your post, but you say you have found so much treasure, you don't need the Beale Treasure. Please keep posting. No hard feelings with you either Wildcard. I will be able to prove that the Beale Treasure no longer exist. I will not be able to prove that it never did.
See, you all again around Christmas time. albert_hunter@yahoo.com
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beale
Sept 28, 2004 6:45:51 GMT -5
Post by Wild Card on Sept 28, 2004 6:45:51 GMT -5
Albert;
I want you to know, that I am not one to say that you haven't uncovered something. In fact, I am very happy for you, if you have.
Can I also assume, that you are aware, that before the end of the war: the Confederacy 'was supposed' to have received--- $20 million in 'pound pieces' from England $20 million from France $15 million in silver dollars from Mexico
An awful lot of money was never accounted for at the end of the war. It had to go somewhere! Or else ole Jeff Davis could have been hung for treason. But still... I'm not convinced that your finding has anything to do with this mystery. MAYBE... some day well talk about this some more.
Wild Card and good luck to 'ya!!!
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beale
Sept 28, 2004 15:54:29 GMT -5
Post by TOMm on Sept 28, 2004 15:54:29 GMT -5
as i have said before there is more than one vault ive made offers to any body that wants to spend some gasoline money and some time with a camera
i didnt break the codes,but only had an old friend that found the main vault (read well ) IN OLD VIRGINIA; heres a better discription of the geographics of old VA. mason and dixion moved the boundary lines knowing those boundary lines puts you back into Old Virginia the statement about old VA. is in the phamplet.in the main vault was a map to the other vaults
accordinly to the hints in the phamplet and the items with my old friends help, i have air tight proof of this vault being connected to beal
if some one would give me instructions as how to scan and up load a picture of this vault to this site id be more than glad to upload it., it is the map from *T. J.* not easily found ,but ill give the location of the book it can be found in, the book is out of print, the map is in john adams jorunal (*JOURNEYING* TO THIS PLACE) but its a map of TOM JEFFERSONs IN ADAMS BOOK TOMm
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beale
Oct 5, 2004 21:06:31 GMT -5
Post by TOMm on Oct 5, 2004 21:06:31 GMT -5
i think i have a new lead on the cyphers but the dates are still out of sinc, i dont believe the dates are dates per se,
Ben Franklin had access to; 1... a Balloon 2... a Candle 3... a magic lanten for enlarging print such as 3D art 4... joules (jewles) for electric 5... a Key on a string 6... an address book(addresses of the heirs) 7... a game with the number 71 in it 8... a copy of the DOI 9... a large fortune he didnt care to leave to his son 10... a cypher used by the founding farthers 11... a library 12... an almanac (*the wheather being fine*) 13... an ambassadorship(journeying to this place) 14... a printing press to print the original phamp. 15... he knew jefferson and a mr. beal, & morris 16... he knew the treasurer and engraver 17... he had an enterprise 18... he was a genius with numbers & maps 19... was involved with society of friends. 20... he had help from the indians 21... he help first gold mine in N.C 22... he lived with albert gallitan. TOMm
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kydav
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beale
Oct 11, 2004 19:25:01 GMT -5
Post by kydav on Oct 11, 2004 19:25:01 GMT -5
Hi Tom, I've heard you mention you had a silver bar, is there any markings on it, like numbers or a stamp? I was just curious to find out where it was made or where it came from? If you don't wanna post you can e-mail to kydav58@aol.com we have talked before
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kydav
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beale
Oct 11, 2004 19:46:16 GMT -5
Post by kydav on Oct 11, 2004 19:46:16 GMT -5
Forgot to mention there's a new movie coming out about a secret code on the back of the original doi. Someone has to steal the doi and decipher the code leading to a large treasure. And you don't think anybodys watching us! Ha!
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beale
Oct 11, 2004 20:29:22 GMT -5
Post by TOMm on Oct 11, 2004 20:29:22 GMT -5
yes there is markings on it and a date it came from a larger vault deposited 1817 along with gold notes it isnt like the other ones my friend has the small mold i have the larger mold ,the bar ways 4lbs 2oz at the post office scale, there was also a german silver map/topo it ways 2lb 4oz. the words are eroded this particular bar is engraved with feathers and leaves much like the design on paper money i found some smaler pieces of silver near by they look like small minnows shaved from other bars ive got it from a (place name) of ward ive done a lot of research on Who this so called beal is and the only thing im sure of is either i found something that is provable and that the dates dont make any sence i have dechipherd single words that are place names in the same local as vault *A* vaults *N* is with in ten miles of *V*vault and im sure that ben franklin albert gallatin and the man i am almost positive that used the name of beal is and was TOBY JEFFERSON heres what keeps driving me to chase this dern thing that im positive the first stamped and minted coins of the usa is involved i had one of them in my hands it was a brashear dubloon about 1979/80 we sent it off to get numistcated and it came back phony but six months latter one was on the auction block ihave offered folks the chance to see one empty vault theres no-way one man could have dug it the treasury seal is real close mabey 3/4 mile but you have to either climb up or climb down to get to it's cut in several inches deep its about 3 feet round look at a one dollar bill with the eagle ; its what i dicovered 20 years ago,and the ground squirrels didnt have any use for its artistry tom jeferrson has been known to bury silver read notes on Viriginia, he buried bars under his porch and the british found them and he taught TOBY how to dig what he called vaults...plural*Vaults* but under the house at little mountian.... TOMm
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beale
Oct 13, 2004 21:54:23 GMT -5
Post by TOMm on Oct 13, 2004 21:54:23 GMT -5
hello Kadav that code has been known for somtime but since the names are long forgoten of such locations those people will never find any thing unless its one of the vaults thats been looted As far as watching they (uncle sam) took a small vault from me in 1981 it dosent take a huge vault to put a crock full of coins into it remeber the treasure was vauled at *3 quarters* of a million... 75 cents that's 25 cents more than the phamplet had cost, that was just a safety not to have the other coins in one place, because they new they were making history with a new nation and would have new coins of that nation would be a prise(isnt prise in the phamphlet) but those three quarters are proofs set dated 1795 here is a freebe and let em watch ... the next coins on the auction block are going to be birch coins buried by thomas jefferson himself i found items but most of the leather items were rotten but a few of the metal items were in tact the one item is initialed TJ 1810 now that could be (thadeaus johnson) but i dont think so hers a good question .. where did all the gold go that was to be paid to nopoleon bonoparte and not france; for the purchace of LA. 15million plus interest in gold never made it Did Mrs. B get it I dont think so although the treasury reciepts (wasn't there reciepts mention in the phamplet) ? Hmmm ?? arent coins from the same treasury?? now thats a real vault thats difficult to get to!! you can bet the barbary pirates did not get these shipments as claimed by the treasurer of the USA; whom, i can prove, became wealthly with in one year after taking office, and the year before he didnt have 6 Hundred Dollars i have got it in writting,, his writting
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beale
Nov 15, 2004 16:28:05 GMT -5
Post by Snake on Nov 15, 2004 16:28:05 GMT -5
Hi, I'm new to this game and the Beale story but isn't it possible that there are multiple 'vaults' in multiple locations, many, if not all, of which have nothing to do with Beale? After all, people have been burying 'treasure' for as long as man has been around. Even if Beale itself is a hoax, as many of the other posters have stated, there is a lot of money that's turned up missing in this country's history...
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beale
Jan 16, 2005 12:52:52 GMT -5
Post by Rebel KGC on Jan 16, 2005 12:52:52 GMT -5
Yo! Rebel here: Lawd Gawd A'mighty! This stuff is good! Wild Card... u are correct about da missing CSA Treasury (all 55 millions of it... dey wanted to fund da South "rising up" again...) Didn't J. B. Ward write something about a "long train of Silver"... from Richmond, Va. perhaps? tjb... like u, I am also a "country boy", who loves dese hills (mountains) and... it sounds like u "hit on" super-cache (AKA Beale Treasure)... ToMm and snake... u both r correct... dere r more than one "vault"... many smaller caches ... for da "picking?.... BUT be for-warned... dese property-owners r probably descended from original SENTINELS, (Virginia had many CASTLES in dose days)... and the owners may NOT even know about de caches... LGA! Long live da KGC! ;D
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beale
Feb 20, 2005 20:48:40 GMT -5
Post by Rebel KGC on Feb 20, 2005 20:48:40 GMT -5
Yo! Rebel here: Sleeting outside... not much else to do... Ha! Wanna keep the forum going... there is a LOT of interesting stuff, here... ;D Yep... there does seems to be lots of smaller caches/vaults in these hills... many legends... to be checked out... ;D
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beale
Apr 14, 2005 8:05:41 GMT -5
Post by Rebel KGC on Apr 14, 2005 8:05:41 GMT -5
Yo! Rebel here: ;D 4/14/05... Out teasure hunting? OR... What say ye all, now?
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