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Post by kydave on Aug 28, 2005 9:25:12 GMT -5
Elwood, You should join the local Lodge where you live. "We" are not allowed to tell you much, then maybe you can put something together. That's "one" of the reasons i joined 40 years ago ha! ha! That's when i first got the Beale Papers, good luck with your pursuits.
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Post by kydave on Aug 25, 2005 18:24:27 GMT -5
have researched a little of that in the past and only could find info on the signal core using a flag to send code on the battlefield. If you know it try it who knows!
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Post by kydave on Aug 25, 2005 17:15:26 GMT -5
Seems everything that can be said about the Beale treasure has already been said and i don't really see that anything has been acomplished other than having a little fun. I think the real key is somewhere that none of has looked yet. I have 40 years invested in this project and haven't discovered anything except a strange number arangement that involves all three papers that need to be combined to make one readable cipher that i haven't been able to decipher.
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Post by kydave on Aug 22, 2005 18:07:38 GMT -5
I think Charlotte was the name of the ship that they discovered in the snow and ice wasn't it? RebelKGC is the Masonic expert. I know what the memory aids are but i don't really see any connection. But there is a Declaration of Independence hanging around most Lodges. You should join one who knows what you might find out.
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Post by kydave on Aug 20, 2005 18:02:29 GMT -5
Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! You guys crack me up! Ha! Ha! I'm sorry but i have absolutly nothing to add or any comment about any recent post. So when i come up with anything worth posting about maybe i will. In the meantime going to Vero Beach pretty soon and do a little metal detecting for shipwreck stuff and have some fun. Too hot here to get out and look for Civil War relics and the grounds so hard and dry you can't stick a shovel in it, thats a winter thing for most of us anyway
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Post by kydave on Aug 18, 2005 10:32:56 GMT -5
Well i see you guys are still at it! Just dropping a line to say hi! Maybe i'll get involved again this winter but keep those ideas coming in. Watching the movie National Treasure really got me "fired up", watched it twice as a matter of fact. Bet they got some of their ideas from us ha! Anyway catch "ya'll" later.
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Post by kydave on Mar 11, 2006 10:25:08 GMT -5
Yes sir i did! Now let's move on..........
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Post by kydave on Mar 10, 2006 12:52:07 GMT -5
I think this site will agree with most everything you've said, www.criticalenquiry.org/beale/ or named The Legendary Beale Treasure . Some of those that have claimed solutions are Mel Hodgens, Bealesolved.tripod, George Love, Ray Kendall and Albert Attwell and course the relatives that found the key in the Bible cover, but i'm sure you already knew all this. Ha! Ask them to prove it to you not me!
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Post by kydave on Mar 9, 2006 20:34:55 GMT -5
I have never claimed to be the sharpest tool in the shed so to speak. Ninety percent of the people that dig into this Beale saga are in over their head and don't even realize it as far as i'm concerned. I don't agree with all your anagramming but you do have a very good case. You have produced a mathematican that could have done the code. I have looked for such a person in the past and never could come up with anyone i could be sure of. Clemens writings and stories have a lot of the same verbage phrases etc. But on the other hand David Mason had me read the Mormon newspaper and the punctuation was exactly the same as the Beale papers. So i have begun to believe that all the writers back then walked, talked and wrote their stories in the same manner. I have posted before about the story being misleading and if there was a treasure we were probably being led away from it not the opposite. The same for the code, if it's real theres a good chance that alphabet is not going to come from the DOI because we have been led to believe some fool is telling us about where a treasure is buried and used the DOI as a key. But as i said you have a very good case and anyone involved has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that they have the right solution, myself included. Look how many times the codes have been broken already! I guess everybody wants to see gold before they believe anything. An empty hole just don't cut it Checkmate!
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Post by kydave on Mar 9, 2006 10:28:42 GMT -5
Heres another far-fetched idea! I read where there was a genius living on an island in the James River during the Beale time frame. He could be the "Culprit"! But like most of us i haven't kept notes on my research.
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Post by kydave on Mar 8, 2006 19:48:25 GMT -5
I stand corrected! I should have went thru all of Rockhounds Archives before posting. But my main attempt was to find the math system that was used to spread the code numbers. I don't even attempt to spell words unless i think i've found a pattern in the number sequence, anyone can force letters to spell something using the frequency count. Incidently i believe thats why that method doesn't pan out because the numbers are not in their right order. Like i've said before, i don't get the pencil out much. Just trying to maybe give someone else an idea. I hate to see so many people wasting time on things that have been tried already. I did the Spanish French thing years ago! I just want this thing solved in my lifetime.
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Post by kydave on Mar 5, 2006 21:30:40 GMT -5
Thanks G-man, i've seen the number shift and never could figure out how it was done, number line, slide rule and everything else i could think of with no results in finding a systematic way that could be used for decipherment. So then i read somewhere that a scrambled cipher like this would take a geometric shape when its decoded so gave it a shot anyway. But i do believe that the person that put these numbers down knew exactly what they were doing! Clever or genius? Don't know! Seems that the numbers or their numerical positions were placed 100 200 300 numbers apart plus or minus 1 on all three papers. Then theres the pairs 115 73 116 74 etc. numerical pairs on all three papers. If someone was smart enough to create a hoax and went to this much trouble they could have just as easily made it spell something! It could be that the single number 1 or its position on each page could be the answer. A lot of things seem to point to a relationship between the first and last number on each page or their position, the number 1 and it's position and the number 100 as some kind of measuring tool. I would love to see how simple the answer probably really is.
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Post by kydave on Mar 4, 2006 22:48:26 GMT -5
If the DOI or all three code papers were combined and put in a geometric form such as a pyramid, could this possibly generate addition and subtraction by say 1 or 100 when counting the code numbers and numbering their position or cause this paradox your talking about? Or am i way off base being out there all by myself?
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Post by kydave on Apr 13, 2008 8:12:46 GMT -5
Nope haven't gone down there yet. But i think it might be on Park property and probably weighs 1500 to 2000 lbs. . So a real problem there!
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Post by kydave on Apr 11, 2008 11:10:16 GMT -5
Thanks Beale!
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