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Post by kydave on Sept 9, 2008 7:19:26 GMT -5
True or false?? Was this person related to our man? Or is there any way to find out? If proved could mean a lot towards the story!
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Post by Rebel KGC on Sept 9, 2008 12:23:42 GMT -5
"True or false?" Are YOU a lawyer, then? TRUTH- FULLY, MY "sense" is NO... "Google" ANCESTORS OF JOHN INGLES OF KENTUCKY
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Post by kydave on Sept 11, 2008 7:09:47 GMT -5
Another interesting Cryptologist' M. E. Ohaver! He was very capable of creating this "mess"!
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Post by kydave on Sept 11, 2008 9:06:58 GMT -5
What about ancestors of John Ingles of Virginia? ;D
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Post by beale on Sept 11, 2008 12:38:42 GMT -5
What about ancestors of John Ingles of Virginia? ;D Hi kydave, I have historical researchers trying to find something out about John Ingles of Virginia. Where in Virginia? Do you know what county he was from? He most likely descended from Ingles of Ingles Ferry near Radford, don't know? But anyway I am checking into that for you. I read the post and the website you put up, they have a couple of letters listed from John Ingles. One to the Beale Cypher Association and another to someone else. I could not open those letters but I tried. They have all the published material on the Beale Treasure on a foreign website that I had to have translated but I could not open those either. I will keep trying. Albert
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Post by TOMm on Sept 11, 2008 16:01:49 GMT -5
HI GENTS
DO any of you have the deferment of that world war cryptanalyst
i dint know if it was marshal or whom it was but could one of you post his findings
it used to be posted by the Beale Association site but they took that army guys cryptanalyst info down.
THANKS
TOMm
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Post by kydave on Sept 11, 2008 17:37:24 GMT -5
Don't have any info right now but if this guy was really related to TJB it would be a major breakthrough. He was working on the ciphers in 1927 and claimed to be related. Anyway i'm going to a club treasure hunt this weekend, maybe i can find out more next week.
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Post by beale on Sept 16, 2008 16:09:38 GMT -5
That year is about the time that Clayton Hart was buying up property in Montvale maybe this John Ingles was Clayton Hart. Most members of the Beale Cypher Association rarely used their real names?
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Post by Rebel KGC on Sept 17, 2008 6:04:58 GMT -5
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Post by kydave on Sept 17, 2008 22:19:03 GMT -5
Yep i would say your probably right about John Ingles ancestors being from Radford, interesting place to read about. And not very far from Bedford County either ha! Can't find much on Family trees though. Did read where an earlier john Ingles 1783 a son of William i guess aquired some land and an Island in the New River.
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Post by Rebel KGC on Sept 18, 2008 8:43:44 GMT -5
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Post by Rebel KGC on Sept 18, 2008 11:36:05 GMT -5
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Post by beale on Sept 28, 2008 13:03:39 GMT -5
rebel, I would definitely check in the want ads or small captions about and inch or less------most miss these little things and all we need is one little tidbit to get the ball rolling. I am going to go back and read the Lexington, Kentucky old papers they go back to the 1780's. Maybe a little something in there about a party of 30 headed west. All of these men would stop over at boarding houses or taverns along the way, there has got to be records somewhere. I plotted over 2,000 acres of land in North Goose Creek. I plan on mapping all of the homes and businesses within a four or five mile area of Buford's Tavern before 1822. I have some dates that go back to 1766 and 1786. It will be interesting when I get all of this research together. It is hard plotting these maps from the old survey lines, county surveyors here in my county said it was not possible. Well I have been able to do the mapping and I plan on mapping all of it. I am also reading and recording WILLS a lot of information about families and their children are in them. If I don't write my TOME 11, I may put all of this research into a book to save others from having to do all of this time consuming work. It takes a lot of time. That 2,000 acres I have plotted is only five tracts of land ranging from 200 to 800 acres each, but the main thing is all the surveys fit all five together with the surrounding landowners and their names. I can now get their deeds and map their lands. Some deeds however do not have surveys, they just name each of the landowners that live around them on the north, south, east and west. Just thought I would let you in on what I was doing. Albert I have checked the 1820 Census of Lynchburg, Virginia. Since, TJB was there during the months of the 1820 I found out there was two men between the ages of 18 to 24 and only one man 24 years or older. This would mostly assuredly confirming Beall as being between 18 and 24 years of age. The only other man of Robert Morriss' household being older than 24 would have been Seth Ward. At least now we have an age for TJB in 1820 if nothing else. I am still working on my mapping and putting the pieces of the Beale Treasure story together. I can't give you the answer to this question but I will ask it anyway to see if anyone else knows the answer. What does Haymakertown have to do with the Beale Treasure Legend?
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Post by Rebel KGC on Sept 28, 2008 16:30:04 GMT -5
;D beale, Haymakertown, Va. was/is an "unincorporated" COMMUNITY in "Bote" County (Botetourt); PROBABLY on the ROANOKE "TOPO" (3-D) Map from USGS. PROBABLY, outside OR near Fincastle, near the OLD "stage road", that is NOW... a FIRE ROAD. PV researched ALL the mines in Bedford County (INCLUDING), along the BRP. DOE was gonna use Bedford County as a NUCLEAR WASTE DUMP, once . PV & his wife got PO'ed and researched this stuff... went up to DC & "protested". GOTTA get a copy of THAT "MINES REPORT". ANYWAY... Haymakertown, Va. MAY be "connected" to the OLD Beale "homeplace"... DUNNO.
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Post by Rebel KGC on Sept 28, 2008 16:52:51 GMT -5
;D RELATED to the "above"; THEY are gonna have a GENEALOGY FAIR, on Oct. 11, 2008, 9am - 3pm. www.virginia.org/site/description.asp?attrID=43530 http://www.co.botetourt.va.us./news_events/meeting_detail.php?event_ID=198 At the one in Bedford, they had MAPS of OLD BOTETOURT for $4.00 a "piece"... HAYMAKERTOWN, Va... MAY be on it... DUNNO.
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