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Post by TOMm on Nov 6, 2006 19:53:24 GMT -5
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Post by TOMm on Nov 8, 2006 22:39:04 GMT -5
good evening to all posters and roasters
Do any of you gents have info on JAMES BEVERLY WARD
WAS he married in civil war birth date illegal kids move from and to address gilfriend name
And did any of yall find the pattern to read MARK 1,17 and Mathew 4,19 chapter and verse it works!! Mark comes from where it states "Marked number 3" the word is "FISHER" read in a curve (part of morriss circle) ########"SIFERX"##########################
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Post by charlie mason on Nov 9, 2006 13:46:14 GMT -5
tom read peter v's book the beale treasure new history of a mystery..he has a complete history of jas b ward..
bt clodhopper
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Post by TOMm on Nov 9, 2006 18:02:35 GMT -5
Thanks Mr. Clodhopper For the book info
The Reason i was Asking was i did a compariso genology .search
and found some interesting and/or coincidences about " James Bverly Ward " And Jesse James the main thing in common was thay both wrote treasure stories and published them they both had friends that were printers they both had codes And while using roots web .com i found that many times that a jesse james and a james ward was in the same town in the same years And they even had the same spouses name of Lucy and other towns the spouse name was the same and once i found a frank james using frank ward james and a DARTIN WARD (mabey the game)and a james b wardin JEWELL kansas i think i alread mentioned that lucy james and lucy ward was in JAY (tb) INDIANA 1860 and a J B WARD in bedford tenn. 1865 and jb ward ST thomas WALES*as whale as *1881 and to be on a level playing ground i also foUNDd a J B WARD IN 1777 realising that many people have the same name i found JEEESE james in troy ohio 1930 and preston county west virginia in preston countyWVA and whats odd is thats the same place i mention about the wagon wheel treasure 1930 and the two banks were robbed in that area by what the old mountain folks said was jesse james mabey MR WARD was AKA JwJ well any way ill have to get that book By P V once again i used roots web.com THANKS and Peace
TOMm
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Post by TOMm on Nov 9, 2006 18:39:10 GMT -5
Hello again yawl A few days ago i was using only the information in the pamplet
i dcyphered this>> Mrs Morriss had the keys and Ward and the directions
Thats alll I(TOMm) could make sence from it and thats all i could find so ,I moved to a different part ( do yAwl remember the word *part* in the phamplet??) and after trying different math formulas i decypherd this>> "i threw the son ov a bxxcH of the RAQ"s >>> (rocks) *punctillio* THEN moving to another part i got>>> "MORRISS" mabey its a fluke dunno Tthis timei was not using J JAMES as My theme of thought.
TOMm
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Post by TOMm on Nov 13, 2006 23:35:07 GMT -5
Even Gents
Heres a idea ive used and it seems to work
you will need a typed copy of the pamplet from either Roanoke or Lynchburg library Or type the letters in helvica font double space the letters and each line and that is advisable for THE DOI one of the Designs is the typeset and fontits also its in the grids system now draw a line to connect any five letter words that you may find some have no connection with the codes but some do
This should be the pattern of the numbers instead of right to left the only way i THINK that there connected is that to see if the same 5 more letters are found in the grid either in partial sentences or phonics as jefferson used on occasion
some REV SOLDIERS were COMFort Ward as in comfortable quarters ROOTS WEB COM MOREHOUSE YOUR HOUSE also URE HOUSE SIX MILes from ALBERT GALLITANs house BEDFORD Buford Trumble save you the trouble OPAL BEAL as in jewels also has any one considerd the GUIDE as a (book???) or a man to becounted one as in sharing in the treasure instead of 31 it s 32 men plus 2 or 3 servants (NULLS or locks) i know that May nine is in the grids i believe that some of the numbers are grid sizes for instance using 760 a grid of letter by 7 by 60 whats puzzels me is the dates on the bars that i have been privy to dosent match up with the dates in the letters my coclusion is that if one uses the DOI then the Letters were Wrote in 1775 or 1825 which dposent make any sence olny if this absurd assumtion is THOMAS JEFFERSON WAS A LIVE IN the year 1832 7 years aFter his original date of death The grids speak of some one being killed and i think its strange that 2 expresidents died exactly the same day whats the chance of that happennig july 4 1825 it also speaks of the very first set of coins minted of the united states in the custody of H G FLETCHER 1814 these grids are fragmented these are what i assume that there trying to say hg flechter lived near beal and ROBERT morriss ESQ in 1790 in Penna
TOMm
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Post by TOMm on Nov 16, 2006 20:38:18 GMT -5
OK gents & gentress's
ITS time to get excell out and do the grid thing
Its time to grid all of the pamphlet into sections the Description sec tion
The ward comes on to scene section Grid The DOI Grid The I haLves grid . The May 9 Grid . The Paragraphs Grid . THe Post Script Grid . The Paper Marked Number" " Grid . The Price 50 Cent GRid . The Game grid *Chequered Life* The 1822 grid . AND The LAY OVER GRID (DIDNT beal lay Over?. * Under this Arrangement* . Glass or Film on top *its loss wood be* ERIE irrepairable. AnD The Reverse Grid *some reverses* reverse all other grids. And the innis grid lee broke bones
and by the by Take the word *Enterprise*
Look at it careful do you see the nearest (S) well look again see the other s in the other line of a sentence near*ENTERPRIZE* Well those two Ss are telling you its a steam ship SS enterprize. its only one of many carefuly and precise placement of typeset old typset was placing each lead letter wher you wanted it to press the ink onto PAPER or TIN TYPE
Now once you have a grid set up youll need a stencil sort of a brass punch board like those old time computer punch cards then all you will see is the pertinent letters needed to give a message, With out it you have a bunch of invalid letter servants BlOcKiNg the correct letters to be read BUT not entirely invalid BECAUSE the next stencil is layed on top of the servants from the last time there by giving more in valid letters or numbers untill COMPLETED, sort of like a question or guide slide board if you pull it out BETWEEN THE OTHER TINS OR PAPERS it gives info on the subject at hand tis OF COURSE mY sOL OPINION ALTHOUGH I HAVE USED A SIMULAR SYSTEM.
TOMm
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Post by TOMm on Nov 18, 2006 0:31:37 GMT -5
Hello Again
I was comptemplating in deep thought of what design/shape of instrument would be used and i concluded since Beal said "You wheel" (will) twice; I invisioned 2 U Shaped / Circle plates And one (1) rounded ie. grid sandwiched between the punched holes ,both sides of a disc *when you DISCOVER* one half reading the other side where reading the other plate/disc left off in other words the two outer plates have holes that line up on correct numbers one side and the correct letters the other side and the other thing could be like one of those huge disk on on a music box about 3ft across
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Post by TOMm on Nov 18, 2006 14:56:12 GMT -5
Its about 1 :30 eastern PM FROM last night ive been up long in to the night and i have found /dcypherd whom the real beal really was and all you scorners and scoffers might want to remember that i said this first GRM the real deal and CG along with THM Jeff.were the three men at Buffords ,Wards name is mentioned but not thee JBW also the year is different ,
And here is part of the treasure the molds the dies of and to, the Great Seal and first (coins minted now think 1789) what coins were stuck in that year answer Brashear 10 known, i had one in my hands but came bak phony, Imagine that about a year later one was on the auction block ;the one i held came from a place near that great seal carved in the rocks
and know ive not broken the entire code only parts of it
Im thinking that a sipral plate sandwhiched numbered on one side and lettered on the other may produce better *results* just like the hypnotic spiral there is no end *play it to the end*n that would make some numbers that are read left to right now read at all degrees and since the right edge of the numbers are not justfied inother words square and neat but may indicate a gear to turn the other gears or else inter lock when turned because the other side of the flat plates or spiral plates would be printed on the obverse side and im hoping one of the gear ratios is 618 or some cosistent number with in a gear ratio all three codes have a ragged edge that suppose to look normal but these particular codes a far from normal so a complete breaking will take out dove the baachs (OUT OF THE BOX) thinking SO i said all that to say this TJB is not his true initials until nex time
TOMm Ps i think but i am most sure that these letters have two options of being real 1. that jefferson commisioned them to be published 100 years latter 1775 and while job press 1885 added there 40 cents to them and who knows what else was added 2. that one younger than all other DOI signers was the agent and or author and he died in 1849 or there about and he was the secretary of treasure and he had the keys to the mint and with out knowing the place names and history of the real keys area its going to be a long time huntin But theres a short cut theres a stone map to the buried keys Yes the keys are really buried or at least was, only time will tell and who was the engraver ?andwho was the minter? of the 1789 coins iwonder if any body hurd of them? i dont think the history books has it correct
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Post by TOMm on Nov 19, 2006 12:40:57 GMT -5
God Day Posters Have any of you evere wonderd about the statement beal said to divide the treasure into 30 equal shares and morriss was to get the other half Well i thought i would maybe try and answer that by seeing if i could find something to correlate that statement and a Mr Morris had a half brother Lewis Morris and to me that means other family members that i am not priovy to thier relationships half brother means step parents and uncles etc. http:www.ushistory.org/declaration/signers/morris_l.htm en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Morris en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gouverneur_Morris Now what about those dates /grids Skeletons in morris Closet dunno??? TOMm
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Post by TOMm on Nov 19, 2006 12:52:57 GMT -5
Once again Im sorry that link didnt work but i cheked it it it looked good the way i typed it in i musta made a typo somewhere in the link
TOMm
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Post by TOMm on Nov 20, 2006 18:03:05 GMT -5
Good evening Bealesters
have any of you Gents ever heard of these congressmen
Artemas Ward and Samuel Ward
go to wikipedia link above and scroll down all the way to the bottom and click on colonial congressmen
May OUR Mr. James Beverly Ward had some high powered Help in His sudden deciphered of what ever number he publish8sed as so called broken
Well Just Maybe it isn't Broke After all maybe its a sample of a cypher to sell pamphlets in other words what if there are only one or two codes and wards was a come on for a ploy to sell books BUT!! I BELIEVE THE OTHER TWO CODES ARE REAL but what if JBW Had a Great Granddaddy on THE SECRETS COMMISSION isn't odd that all the signers and congressmen passed away but a connection to them has ended up with one of there secrets How long did THE WARDS KNOW MORRISS THEY HAD TO BE CAUSE OF OTHER HIGH POWERED PEOPLE STAYED THERE AND HOW MANY ,MORRISSs KNEW MORRISs SOME FAMILIES CHANGED SPELLING OF THEIR LATS NAME IN ORDER TO SHOW THEIR POLITICAL VIEWS AND BELIEFS
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Post by TOMm on Nov 21, 2006 19:54:28 GMT -5
Mr. Beale
Thanks for the info I think that there were 2 Morriss involved in letter reception but only looking like one receiver as in a trust or estate OR SECRETS OF FAMILY MORRISS nd jefferson were tight lipped friends belonging to the committee of secrets and the Loco Foco 3D CLUB
in one grid some one was planning there demise if they should reach a certain age and heres the wild part it may have been a person with the last name of ward staying with out charge but it highly possible that it was none other than THOMAS JEFFERSON with a different last name how do we know know that the person staying FOR FREE at the hotel was a WARD.? AND WHY .? IS THERE RECORDS OF THEM ? and if there is a a metal box made of iorn as i used to believe it will surprise me when its DISC COVERED in n the near future i even had the hinges from a iorn safe near one vault those hinges are still there the word IORN BOX IS A WORD TO INTERSECT WITH OTHER WORDS TO GIVE MEANING TO THE WHOLE FRAGMENTED STATEMENT IN A GRID MABEY NOT IN A SPIRAL BUT ONE OF THE FIRST WORDS IS FOUND IN THE BOOK OF LUKE AND IT IS FISHER read where pamphlet says MARKED NUMBER 3 MARKED NUMBER 1 the E and D IN MARKED are locks and read in spiral not Yet oR right or up and down AT FIRST thats latter REMEMBER MORRISS SPIRAL that circle he had 360 of friends
and while using Mr. Gv grid study in EXCELL of the codes i found on section 74 lines 120=J 134=B 66=w TAKE A LOOK THERE ALTOGETHER DOWN-WORDS AND JBW = JAMES BEVERLY WARD THE PAMP[HLET COST TEN CENTS BEFORE WARD GOT A HOLD OF IT ALONG WITH JOB P AND TACKED 40 CENTS ONTO IT and why? AND WHAT else did he add other then his initials and 40 cents did he change the contents or numbers in code two? Is that why he could break code two or did THOMAS JEFFERSON WARD (beal) get his name change also or did the third president of the USA train somebody at that den of thiefs (HOTEL)?
AND TO ANSWER the question from the other post as to why they would pass on to thier family is two fold why didnt morris pas on to nepews brother in laws etc,? the other is because of family honer the codes talke about bed fellows ., sex drugs and killing and poision do a search in wickipeadia and see whom was poisoned
and finally because the treasure is a whole USA GOV MINT THATS SUPPOSED TO BE LOST. REMEMBER MORRIS AND THE WAGON TRAIN OF PLATE IN MY EARLIER POST AND IT COINS AT LEAS THREE VAULTS one of gold one of jools(jewels) and one of silver and the first minbted coins 1789 and 1795 in custody of H G FLETCHER AND LASTLY TO KEEP FAMILY KNOWING TRUE SOURCE OF INCOME BECAUSE THAT MAKES HIM DISHONOABLE REMEMBER THE BROTHER HOOD OATH IN DOI
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Post by TOMm on Nov 21, 2006 22:57:41 GMT -5
evening once again gents Do you fellows remember this statement *AND THE LYON WAS A ROUSED* well check out this statement seiz2day.com/sbmerk/photos/wardlyon/index.html#amada TRY association of names OF THE WARDS ie. COWLES FOR LOACAL HADLY HAD IN FINDING IT JUNE BARFOOT 1832 ADA WARD AID DEWEY LYON YOULL KNOOW WHAT TO DO RUTH LITTLE LITTILE PILE ASWELL AS PALMER IN THE HANDS OF PATCH SEW(so) THERE WILL BE NO PETTS DEAR(deer) FRIEND SACKETTE GAME SHERMAN MILITARY ORGANIZION STONE ON TOP OF STONE THAYRE IF THERE BE ANY WILLIAM URE YOUR FRIEND LEVI WARD SINCE LEAVING WALTER WARD VAULT GIFT WATSON GIFT TO YOU EARL WARD EARLY IN MARCH REBBECA WILLIAMS YOU WILL JANE WEBSTER PUNCTILLIO GATES STAGE HARTS ALL THESES NAMES ARE WARD FAMILY TREE NAMES I FOUND LUCY REMEMBER LUICY WARD AND JESSES JAMES LUCY IN MY PRIOR POST BUT NO J B.WARD ON THIS WEB SITE OF WARDS TOm
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Post by TOMm on Nov 21, 2006 23:03:42 GMT -5
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